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The hardest part of writing music for me is...
Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 12:58 pm
by Omega Myre
...Making my lyrics singable, if you know what I mean. I have no real problem writing guitar and drum parts, no problem writing lyrics, but I really can't get my lyrics to get into the song. I can't figure how I should sing the lyrics, how fast they should go, etc.
Does anyone have any advice as to how I can fix my problem? Thanks
Re: The hardest part of writing music for me is...
Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 2:13 pm
by Hentaiman
Well i can't really help except for saying that i also have problem of making an actual song of my lyrics and music, that it'll sound like a real song. its definitely hard.
Re: The hardest part of writing music for me is...
Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 9:52 pm
by Jeremy Kill
I don't know if you already do this, but maybe record and play the song and then sing gibberish over it to find a nice vocal melody. Then just adjust your lyrics to fit that melody accordingly.
I don't know how well that technique works, I just know some bands do that and it seems to work pretty well for them.
Re: The hardest part of writing music for me is...
Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 3:49 am
by Gibsum 41
what i do in a situation like that is make some words longer than others in a verse. that way it'll fill in for the melody and your lyrics wont be shit. remember that in a song every lyric counts
hope i could help
Re: The hardest part of writing music for me is...
Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 2:12 pm
by budgie
Gunner wrote:I don't know if you already do this, but maybe record and play the song and then sing gibberish over it to find a nice vocal melody. Then just adjust your lyrics to fit that melody accordingly.
I don't know how well that technique works, I just know some bands do that and it seems to work pretty well for them.
that worked once for me :D
Re: The hardest part of writing music for me is...
Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 8:31 pm
by d4rkst4r
budgie wrote:Gunner wrote:I don't know if you already do this, but maybe record and play the song and then sing gibberish over it to find a nice vocal melody. Then just adjust your lyrics to fit that melody accordingly.
I don't know how well that technique works, I just know some bands do that and it seems to work pretty well for them.
that worked once for me :D
thats what deryck from sum 41 does, or did. If you watched the making of underclass hero, he does it for confusion and frustration in modern times and he did it for over my head.
Re: The hardest part of writing music for me is...
Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 11:36 pm
by Dylan
d4rkst4r wrote:budgie wrote:Gunner wrote:I don't know if you already do this, but maybe record and play the song and then sing gibberish over it to find a nice vocal melody. Then just adjust your lyrics to fit that melody accordingly.
I don't know how well that technique works, I just know some bands do that and it seems to work pretty well for them.
that worked once for me :D
thats what deryck from sum 41 does, or did. If you watched the making of underclass hero, he does it for confusion and frustration in modern times and he did it for over my head.
is that what he did on the All Messed Up and Still Waiting demos? cause it really sound like that.
Re: The hardest part of writing music for me is...
Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 12:32 am
by I'm A Cunt [*banned*]
the hardest part of music in all for me is getting my damn guitar stringed and tuned.
:(
Re: The hardest part of writing music for me is...
Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 5:26 pm
by budgie
Bullet_For_My_Valenzine wrote:the hardest part of music in all for me is getting my damn guitar stringed and tuned.
:(
haha
you should... learn
Re: The hardest part of writing music for me is...
Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 8:25 pm
by d4rkst4r
NoReason27 wrote:d4rkst4r wrote:budgie wrote:Gunner wrote:I don't know if you already do this, but maybe record and play the song and then sing gibberish over it to find a nice vocal melody. Then just adjust your lyrics to fit that melody accordingly.
I don't know how well that technique works, I just know some bands do that and it seems to work pretty well for them.
that worked once for me :D
thats what deryck from sum 41 does, or did. If you watched the making of underclass hero, he does it for confusion and frustration in modern times and he did it for over my head.
is that what he did on the All Messed Up and Still Waiting demos? cause it really sound like that.
ye, forgot about those ones too and my direction
Re: The hardest part of writing music for me is...
Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 7:58 pm
by kevin5064
the hardest part for is that i will write this amazing song and i will either be to lazy to write it down, get sick of it, or mostly what happens is it will turn into a rip off of some song i like by another band!! that one makes me so pissed off
Re: The hardest part of writing music for me is...
Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 10:41 pm
by I'm A Cunt [*banned*]
budgie wrote:Bullet_For_My_Valenzine wrote:the hardest part of music in all for me is getting my damn guitar stringed and tuned.
:(
haha
you should... learn
dude i try and try, the fucking shit just wont tune
Re: The hardest part of writing music for me is...
Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 11:13 pm
by Jeremy Kill
Bullet_For_My_Valenzine wrote:budgie wrote:Bullet_For_My_Valenzine wrote:the hardest part of music in all for me is getting my damn guitar stringed and tuned.
:(
haha
you should... learn
dude i try and try, the fucking shit just wont tune
Do you tune by ear or use a tuner?
Sometimes when using a tuner you just have to keep picking at the string while tuning it, because sometimes if you have a cheap one, they can go all wonky even when you haven't touched anything.
But then again, it might be the tuners on your guitar or the bridge.
I'm like kevin5064, I'll write a riff or chord progression that I really like, but then it will be like, "it seems like I heard this somewhere before..." and lo and behold, I'll find out I've written a song similar to one of my favorite bands. I also don't write down stuff I come up with, which I probably should end up doing.
Re: The hardest part of writing music for me is...
Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 6:06 pm
by Vani
I'm like kevin5064, I'll write a riff or chord progression that I really like, but then it will be like, "it seems like I heard this somewhere before..." and lo and behold, I'll find out I've written a song similar to one of my favorite bands. I also don't write down stuff I come up with, which I probably should end up doing.
That often happens to me too. But then I just need to change the tone or else. Anyway I remember someone asked Deryck in Q&A about how to make music, deryck said it was fine for the beginning, copying a song that we like then change some part of it. Maybe what deryck meant here we could be influenced by other songs then try them on our song with some changes.
I don't really know how to fit the lyrics into the song, because that's my problem too haha. Do you make the whole music yourself? Why don't you ask your band about that maybe the vocalist can handle that

Re: The hardest part of writing music for me is...
Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 3:44 am
by LTS
thats' the exact opposite of my problem
i can write songs but i can't seem to compose music to it.
Re: The hardest part of writing music for me is...
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 7:50 am
by Jeremy Kill
I think the trick is writing the music, then coming up with a vocal melody, then writing the lyrics. But I suppose everyone has their own way.
The bassist in Fall Out Boy writes the lyrics first, then the singer composes music to it.
Re: The hardest part of writing music for me is...
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 8:39 am
by erikj9
When I write a song if I write all the music to it first, then write the lyrics, i end up making a good song. but If i start with lyrics and melody, i never seem to get my music to fit in haha if that makes any sense.
Re: The hardest part of writing music for me is...
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 2:13 pm
by tomhoppus
Gunner wrote:
The bassist in Fall Out Boy writes the lyrics first, then the singer composes music to it.
And look how well that works

Re: The hardest part of writing music for me is...
Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 12:19 am
by LTS
tomhoppus wrote:Gunner wrote:
The bassist in Fall Out Boy writes the lyrics first, then the singer composes music to it.
And look how well that works

lmao
Re: The hardest part of writing music for me is...
Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 3:57 pm
by Nic
I like to write music first. Lyrics usually just pop into my head while I play.