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did anyone see the race at the weekend in Belgium? with all the controversy at the end with hamilton getting knocked down to 3rd? crazy if you ask me, i hope McClaren win their appeal
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seriously he deserved it i mean what he did was illegal
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after having to cut the corner he clearly let off the gas to let Raikonnen back past! so he dint make any advantage from cutting that corner. and in the next corner, Hamilton cleanly passed him, they only touched cos Raikonnen wasnt paying full attention
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in the past i `m a very big fromel 1 fan! but now i think it is too boring.
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Räikkönen>Hamilton
Propably coz he's from Finland..
Okay, I haven't been watching F1 much this year tbh, but I saw the Belgium GP and it was amazingly entertaining! Maybe the best GP ever, along with the 2007 Brasilian GP where 80% of the drivers crashed in the same curve :DD
Propably coz he's from Finland..
Okay, I haven't been watching F1 much this year tbh, but I saw the Belgium GP and it was amazingly entertaining! Maybe the best GP ever, along with the 2007 Brasilian GP where 80% of the drivers crashed in the same curve :DD
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says the British dude....bobbyjames wrote:after having to cut the corner he clearly let off the gas to let Raikonnen back past! so he dint make any advantage from cutting that corner. and in the next corner, Hamilton cleanly passed him, they only touched cos Raikonnen wasnt paying full attention
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http://www.sportinglife.com/others/news ... tlead.htmlLewis Hamilton today took a sideswipe at the stewards and judges he feels have forsaken the competitive spirit of Formula One.
Unsurprisingly, McLaren's appeal into the retrospective 25-second drive-through penalty handed to Hamilton after the Belgian Grand Prix earlier this month was ruled inadmissible.
The five who sat in judgment on McLaren and Hamilton at yesterday's five-and-half-hour hearing in Paris simply applied the letter of the FIA law in reaching their verdict.
There is no doubt, though, a finger of blame should be pointed at the trio of stewards who handed out the punishment two hours after a thrilling conclusion to the race at Spa 16 days ago.
The world at large had witnessed Hamilton take the chequered flag in enthralling circumstances as he and reigning world champion Kimi Raikkonen fought for the victory.
The incident that culminated in today's verdict, Hamilton cutting the Bus Stop chicane on lap 42 of the 44-lap race and gaining an advantage, has long been debated.
The stewards could have served up a degree of common sense with their penalty by appreciating Hamilton comfortably won the race after Raikkonen had crashed out on the penultimate lap.
Instead, they sparked the controversy, and now with the judges' ruling that is likely to enamour further those who already feel there is an anti-McLaren bias within the FIA.
As Hamilton had previously stated, with the stewards penalising in such a way, it is likely to make any driver think twice before he embarks on an overtaking manoeuvre.
Reflecting on today's ruling, Hamilton said: "People will probably expect me to be depressed about the result, but that isn't me.
"All I want to do now is put this matter behind me and get on with what we drivers do best - racing each other.
"We're racers, we're naturally competitive and we love to overtake.
"Overtaking is difficult, and it feels great when you manage to pull off a great passing manoeuvre.
"If it pleases the spectators and TV viewers, it's better still. So I'm disappointed, yes, but not depressed."
Hamilton maintains he was forced to cut the chicane otherwise he and Raikkonen would have collided.
Although he immediately handed the advantage back to the Finn, he opted to pass again on the run down to the subsequent La Source hairpin.
Race director Charlie Whiting gave his blessing to the move later on lap 43, twice confirming it was 'okay' after being asked by a member of the McLaren pit wall.
Although Hamilton was in the dock for an hour, the argument that raged for three and a half in total ultimately proved academic.
Instead, the judges sided with the regulations that a drive-through penalty is "not susceptible to an appeal".
Although Hamilton obviously did not pass down the pit lane to take his penalty, it was applied retrospectively.
FIA regulations make it clear if such a punishment is handed out in the final five laps, or after the end of a race, the 25 seconds will be added to a driver's race time.
The rule was brought in a few years ago to prevent a repeat of what unfolded when Michael Schumacher won a race in the pit lane while serving a drive-through penalty.
Although McLaren lawyer Mark Phillips QC argued the penalty in this instance was one of time - which can be appealed against - rather than a drive-through - it fell on deaf ears.
McLaren F1 CEO Martin Whitmarsh said: "We are naturally disappointed with today's verdict, and to have received no ruling on the substance of our appeal.
"No-one wants to win grands prix in court, but we felt Lewis won the Belgian Grand Prix on track, and in an exciting and impressive manner.
"Our legal team and witnesses calmly explained this, as well as our belief the appeal should be admissible, to the FIA International Court of Appeal.
"It nonetheless decided our appeal was inadmissible, so we will now concentrate on the remaining four races of the 2008 Formula One season."
Instead of a potential seven-point lead over Ferrari's Felipe Massa heading into the final four grands prix, starting in Singapore this weekend, Hamilton now has only a one-point cushion.
This latest decision is likely to fuel Hamilton's determination to be crowned champion come the end of another rollercoaster season.
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hamilton is a fair sportsman, i think the decisions in favor kimi is wrong.
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^ Propably yes :(
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i'm not so surebobbyjames wrote:Hamilton will still win the championship. lol
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its definatly between him and Massa now. i can't see Kimi coming back into it.Still Waiting wrote:i'm not so surebobbyjames wrote:Hamilton will still win the championship. lol
im looking forward to the race this weekend too, first night race, should be good. i watched the night race they had in Moto GP earlier this year, and that was good.
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yeah kimi lost his chancebobbyjames wrote:its definatly between him and Massa now. i can't see Kimi coming back into it.Still Waiting wrote:i'm not so surebobbyjames wrote:Hamilton will still win the championship. lol
im looking forward to the race this weekend too, first night race, should be good. i watched the night race they had in Moto GP earlier this year, and that was good.
the race is in Singapore right??
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Yes it is.Still Waiting wrote:yeah kimi lost his chancebobbyjames wrote:its definatly between him and Massa now. i can't see Kimi coming back into it.Still Waiting wrote:i'm not so surebobbyjames wrote:Hamilton will still win the championship. lol
im looking forward to the race this weekend too, first night race, should be good. i watched the night race they had in Moto GP earlier this year, and that was good.
the race is in Singapore right??
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The Singapore GP was pretty interesting and not what i had expected. Ferrari's didn't have a great day, Raikkonen broke his car pretty much near the end and Massa decided to drive away with the fuel hose, which made me laugh so hard, i felt sorry for the guys though. Alonso's victory came as a surprise, his leap from 15 to 1 was pretty impressive tbh. Hamilton could have done better.
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oh cool, nico rosberg on the 2. place! and the other german driver in the points.
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watching Massa drive down the pit lane with the hose still attached to his car was quality! once again their traffic light system fucked up, that wasnt Massa'a fault. and Alonso did do well. he was lucky with the safety car, without that he might not have done so well, but he was really quick all weekend. good result for Hamilton too after Massa was out of the points. now 7 points ahead in the championship with 3 races left. its his to lose now.janetvaher wrote:The Singapore GP was pretty interesting and not what i had expected. Ferrari's didn't have a great day, Raikkonen broke his car pretty much near the end and Massa decided to drive away with the fuel hose, which made me laugh so hard, i felt sorry for the guys though. Alonso's victory came as a surprise, his leap from 15 to 1 was pretty impressive tbh. Hamilton could have done better.
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yeah the last 4 laps in the race were the best in the last year in the formel 1.