Rant
Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 1:31 am
I rarely post here, but I've noticed that no one ever starts any long/interesting debates about the band. So I'm going to go on a rant and hopefully people will respond in a reasonable manner about how they feel about the topics I'm going to make note of. I understand that a lot of you will just get pissed off, but the Sum 41 section gets SO boring because you all post about the same things every single day and there needs to be some different conversations for a change. Plus, no one around me likes Sum 41 so I never have anyone to discuss these things with.
So anyway, I'm pretty fed up with this band. After a few months, I've decided that SBM really isn't that good and definitely did not live up to Chuck (nor was it their "heaviest album to date"). This album could have been so much better if only they had kept a producer and had let Tom help with guitar parts. I realize that they (Deryck..) think they can do it all on their own, but the past proves that they can't. The albums that the majority of fans love the most were done while Dave was still in the band and while they had good producers. Deryck can try to say that he has always written the guitar parts, but every time he speaks the words I can't help but to laugh. Anyone with ears can tell the difference between Deryck and Dave's playing styles and who wrote what.
As far as vocal melodies post-Chuck, am I the only one who noticed the fact that Deryck is just re-using old melodies and altering them slightly? For example: Jessica Kill (Still Waiting), What Am I To Say (With Me), Best Of Me (fucking..Hoobastank - The Reason), With Me (Yellowcard - Only One). All of these songs were done without producers, meaning he is probably running out of ideas and no one is there to help him with it...maybe because he won't let them?
Sum 41 used to be one of the best bands I have ever seen live, the way they performed on the Go Chuck Yourself tour was spot on. The set list was long and they had a good mix of everything, not just the singles. They have been playing the SAME bullshit set since 2007 now, with the exception of only a few songs. The band is noticeably more drunk and vocals are pretty bad because of it. What I don't get is that Tom can play all of those metal covers perfectly but yet he still can't play Sum 41 songs the right way (he fucks up on solos all the time). If they "only care about the fans" like Deryck so often says, why don't they start playing songs we all want to hear? Why doesn't Deryck speak to the audience like normal people instead of using the same scripted lines that we've all heard a million times before? Why are they so distant from the fans to point where they rarely come outside after the shows to have real conversations rather than signing a few autographs and immediately going to their bus? It's 2011, there's no such thing as "rockstars" anymore so they should lose the attitude and scripted stage presence. Also, why aren't they touring with other bands like everyone else? It seems that every show they play now is either a festival or random club show with shitty local openers.
Basically, I think this band would be so much better if they would just straighten everything out. Imagine how much better they would be if EVERY single member took part in the writing process and they had a producer come in to keep the songs structured well, fresh, and interesting. I know that we would all enjoy the shows so much more if they changed the set list up all the time, dropped the scripted stage banter, drank less, toured with other relevant bands, and hung out for a little while after.
What do you guys think?
So anyway, I'm pretty fed up with this band. After a few months, I've decided that SBM really isn't that good and definitely did not live up to Chuck (nor was it their "heaviest album to date"). This album could have been so much better if only they had kept a producer and had let Tom help with guitar parts. I realize that they (Deryck..) think they can do it all on their own, but the past proves that they can't. The albums that the majority of fans love the most were done while Dave was still in the band and while they had good producers. Deryck can try to say that he has always written the guitar parts, but every time he speaks the words I can't help but to laugh. Anyone with ears can tell the difference between Deryck and Dave's playing styles and who wrote what.
As far as vocal melodies post-Chuck, am I the only one who noticed the fact that Deryck is just re-using old melodies and altering them slightly? For example: Jessica Kill (Still Waiting), What Am I To Say (With Me), Best Of Me (fucking..Hoobastank - The Reason), With Me (Yellowcard - Only One). All of these songs were done without producers, meaning he is probably running out of ideas and no one is there to help him with it...maybe because he won't let them?
Sum 41 used to be one of the best bands I have ever seen live, the way they performed on the Go Chuck Yourself tour was spot on. The set list was long and they had a good mix of everything, not just the singles. They have been playing the SAME bullshit set since 2007 now, with the exception of only a few songs. The band is noticeably more drunk and vocals are pretty bad because of it. What I don't get is that Tom can play all of those metal covers perfectly but yet he still can't play Sum 41 songs the right way (he fucks up on solos all the time). If they "only care about the fans" like Deryck so often says, why don't they start playing songs we all want to hear? Why doesn't Deryck speak to the audience like normal people instead of using the same scripted lines that we've all heard a million times before? Why are they so distant from the fans to point where they rarely come outside after the shows to have real conversations rather than signing a few autographs and immediately going to their bus? It's 2011, there's no such thing as "rockstars" anymore so they should lose the attitude and scripted stage presence. Also, why aren't they touring with other bands like everyone else? It seems that every show they play now is either a festival or random club show with shitty local openers.
Basically, I think this band would be so much better if they would just straighten everything out. Imagine how much better they would be if EVERY single member took part in the writing process and they had a producer come in to keep the songs structured well, fresh, and interesting. I know that we would all enjoy the shows so much more if they changed the set list up all the time, dropped the scripted stage banter, drank less, toured with other relevant bands, and hung out for a little while after.
What do you guys think?