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half step down live
Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 12:17 pm
by peacock41
this had been bugging me for a while now
why do the sums tune down guitars half a step live
( mostly i noticed in UH era ) but many other times also
i know it may help vocals easyier but why dont they record them like that half a step down or jst make the song standard tuning but slight everything down a fret
anyonehelp me
Re: half step down live
Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 12:36 pm
by Jeremy Kill
They've been tuning down a half step since at least the Does This Look Infected? era. Maybe they've done it from the beginning, I don't know. But it is so Deryck can be allowed to sing at a lower pitch. I think it's so he can save his voice because of all the shows they do.
Also, tuning down a half step helps their guitars stay in tune longer, along with heavier gauge strings.
Re: half step down live
Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 1:59 pm
by peacock41
Re: half step down live
Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 2:16 pm
by Jeremy Kill
Ah, yes, that was kind of weird how he changed the melody of the chorus and bridge. I think part of the reason for that is because the music is actually playback and the song is in standard tuning (or dropped D, if you have the tab book). His voice actually sounds pretty good in that video.
Re: half step down live
Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 10:00 pm
by SG-fan
Derek said that he broke strings so often :D and the only way was to use thicker ones, so they use half step sown tuning now
Re: half step down live
Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 10:11 pm
by Dylan
anyone else think that the music is just playback? it seems too perfect to me, especially the harmonics right before the chorus.
Re: half step down live
Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 10:15 pm
by TomiT14
2712 wrote:
anyone else think that the music is just playback? it seems too perfect to me, especially the harmonics right before the chorus.
Yeah, it's obviously playback. And Jeremy noted that too few posts above.
I just don't get why. Like, excluding Deryck, the rest of the band just pretends they're playing? How fun is that!
Re: half step down live
Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 10:19 pm
by bizzyd53
TomiT14 wrote:2712 wrote:
anyone else think that the music is just playback? it seems too perfect to me, especially the harmonics right before the chorus.
Yeah, it's obviously playback. And Jeremy noted that too few posts above.
I just don't get why. Like, excluding Deryck, the rest of the band just pretends they're playing? How fun is that!
Better than just standing there I guess.
Re: half step down live
Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 10:22 pm
by Dylan
TomiT14 wrote:2712 wrote:
anyone else think that the music is just playback? it seems too perfect to me, especially the harmonics right before the chorus.
Yeah, it's obviously playback. And Jeremy noted that too few posts above.
oh my bad, must be a little tired still...
Re: half step down live
Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 3:12 am
by Tyler.
TomiT14 wrote:2712 wrote:
anyone else think that the music is just playback? it seems too perfect to me, especially the harmonics right before the chorus.
Yeah, it's obviously playback. And Jeremy noted that too few posts above.
I just don't get why. Like, excluding Deryck, the rest of the band just pretends they're playing? How fun is that!
there's no saying they weren't actually playing it there. and the broadcasters put playback over it. i've seen some blink videos where you could tell they were playing it there but the album version had been put over
Re: half step down live
Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 10:29 am
by kILLDR3n
I don't like how Deryck nowadays sings "I'm better off dead" like fading out or down sort of. It loses the whole power of the chorus it feels. It was pretty cool sounding when I first heard him doing that during Chuck touring, but I prefer the real way better.
Re: half step down live
Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 12:13 pm
by peacock41
what do you mean .. send me to links to compare
Re: half step down live
Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 5:22 pm
by kILLDR3n
The good "preferred" way/old way he sings the chorus
The new way/way he's sang the chorus since Chuck touring.
Re: half step down live
Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 7:23 pm
by peacock41
aw yeh it used to be like more higher or sumin
never noticed that before