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Is anyone else stoked beyond belief for this?

No

As I am for every COD game.

finglemaster wrote:No

YES! This game will be epic

I really, really, really wish that Treyarch would go away. There's no reason to keep switching with every title, Activision and Infinity Ward just poop all over Treyarch, their games simply can't compare.

That's not true at all. I almost feel like Infinity Ward barely tried with MW2 (although I do still love it) and WaW is still the only WWII game that I can actually enjoy. And Nazi Zombies is amazing!

I really really really hate treyarch..
They stole the entire franchise from infinity ward
WaW was just a skinpack for cod4 with different killstreaks and different maps..
they always rip off stuff and even then the game sucks..
I'm still going to buy black ops though I need a new game..

Well at least Treyarch is still solid... Infinity Ward's top dogs went down the pooper.....

beacuse Infinity Ward make perfect games...

you do realise Treyarch aren't the ones to hate here, it's Activision.

finglemaster wrote:Well at least Treyarch is still solid... Infinity Ward's top dogs went down the pooper.....

That's because those greedy bastards at activision refused to pay the 'top dogs'..
Activision is just as retarded as IR.. that asshole bobby kottick at activision wants to get paid more than the millions he already gets, so he decided to raise the prices of games and now we pay more for a game because that fat fuck thinks he doesn't get paid enough

Bobby Skumfuk James wrote:beacuse Infinity Ward make perfect games...

you do realise Treyarch aren't the ones to hate here, it's Activision.

MW2 is far from perfect

Bobby Skumfuk James wrote:beacuse Infinity Ward make perfect games...

you do realise Treyarch aren't the ones to hate here, it's Activision.

Makes perfect games... and still MW2 is one of the worst game of all time.

Rocket41 wrote:

Bobby Skumfuk James wrote:beacuse Infinity Ward make perfect games...

you do realise Treyarch aren't the ones to hate here, it's Activision.

MW2 is far from perfect

exactly, MW2 has been fuckin awful in places, yet they can't be arsed to do anything with half the problems.

MW2 is a great game! the only problem is that those assholes just abuse the game..
The only problem with the game itself is that it's way too noob friendly..
on COD4 we didn't have deathstreaks and that kind of bullshit...

It's true that in the past that infinity wards games have surpassed treyarchs, but that is changing rapidly. IW just wanted to add tonnes of cool new things without thinking of their control. That's why treyarch seems to copy IW- they take their better ideas, and hone them to have greater balance and are easier to use. Take the MW2 killstreal chopper gunner. Was easy to obtain through camping and was ridiculously easy to pick out and kill targets. Now look at treyarchs version- replaced by a non-thermal minigun, a lot harder to get hundreds of spawnkills with and also very very hard to obtain/easy to take down. There are hundreds of other examples, but treyarch just listen to the community and regularly tweak and update their games to ensure complete balance and control.

Also I have good reason to believe that the single player wil exceed that of any cod game yet.

reagrdless of any Treyarch/Infinity Ward hate, I'm looking forward to wasting away my life on this game. and if it is shit, I'll move onto something else.

I want all these games to go back to the world war I and II ...I enjoyed them the most ...

Haven't we already got a thread for this?

Uhhhh


Infinity Ward is a bunch of lazy ass fucks. CoD4 was an amazing game, and WaW is fun even with the SMGs and tanks. However, MW2? That is the worst game I have personally played. If IW actually went back and patched it frequently, and it didn't have the shittiest spawn system of all time. If Black Ops sucks, I'm just sticking with BC2.

That being said, I am excited for this, just like I was for MW2...
Per Gregorovich, Treyarch does a fine job of balancing, save a few weapons here and there.

My Life For Hire wrote:I really, really, really wish that Treyarch would go away. There's no reason to keep switching with every title, Activision and Infinity Ward just poop all over Treyarch, their games simply can't compare.

Any hardcore cod fan should be REALLY happy with Treyarch being involved. I'd much rather see a game every year than have to play the same game for two straight years.

Playing COD4 for two straight years would get you nowhere. The multiplayer just wasn't in depth enough. Same with WAW. Both of them had significant limitations that a lot of hardcore COD gamers would have completed in a 2 year span. Notice how many people reached prestige 10 by the time the next game in the franchise was released... how many gold weapon prestige 10's you saw...

MW2 probably could last a bit longer than just one full year. It has a lot of depth to it. However, I feel like, if that were to happen, IW would have to significantly fix the game. IW may shit on Treyarch from a developmental standpoint, or at least from an originality in development standpoint, but Treyarch constantly tried to fix problems in WAW. They consistently put out patches to fix problems in the game.

What has IW done to fix MW2? I can still get in the rock in Fuel. I can still tube people 25 times and get a nuke from it. I can still lunge 300 feet to kill someone with a knife. IW has consistently ignored complaints, whereas Treyarch always paid attention.

Plus, Black Ops looks sick. I don't care what your bias says... a new game is a new opportunity to win over people. IW showed in MW2 that they weren't committed to the players. Treyarch listened to the complaints and has, as far as we know, implemented things to fix the problems in MW2.

For example, removing stopping power, as well as deathstreaks. The perk system is balanced much better, as far as we know. Commando has been removed as well. The customization has excited me quite a bit. Plus, I did just fine at WAW. I think that the main issue with WAW is that people were bad... when you're bad at a game, you probably wont have a huge amount of fun with it. The guns might not have been completely balanced, but the set up in MW2 is just as imbalanced. The UMP is amazing, while the Vector blows bad. The Scar and ACR completely rape just about anyone, and have zero recoil. The M21 is hardly a sniper rifle considering how little the recoil is.

Don't complain about Black Ops until you actually have a reason to complain. MW2 was great until all of the problems were uncovered. Look at the care package glitches and shit. xbox's Mw2 was hacked in like a day.

ANYWAYS; that was way too lengthy.