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The Epicness that is Chuck
Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 8:18 pm
by Astronaut
Lol... yep, that's how epic it is^
Anyway, this is just a discussion type thread for the album Chuck, and even a bit of the background. (Sorry if there's already a Chuck thread.)
And by background, I mean the whole Congo incident and why the album's named Chuck. I actually got the documentary Sum 41 had in the Congo, and it's good, I recommend it. I used it for a paper in school focusing on that xD.
So, what do you all think about Chuck, and, if you've seen it, Sum 41's documentary?
Re: The Epicness that is Chuck
Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 9:11 pm
by FuckT41182
Chuck is a master piece ! :) an yes i have watched the movie Sum 41 in Congo recently ...I think that they did a good thing ...and that's also one of the reasons I like their personalities too,not just their music ...and the backround??It's just awesome :P I like the idea ...
Re: The Epicness that is Chuck
Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 9:16 pm
by soft-punker
Their best album.
Re: The Epicness that is Chuck
Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 10:10 pm
by silverdolphin
soft-punker wrote:Their best album.
Re: The Epicness that is Chuck
Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 10:29 pm
by Jeremy Kill
I didn't enjoy Chuck when it first came out. I felt it was too slow and depressing. It was just so much darker than anything the band had ever done. I remember the first listen on Some Say it was like:
"Wha... what's that at the beginning?... This song is so different, but it's like I've heard it before... I like it, but it's also weird..."
Then I realized: it was a slow song! Something Sum 41 never did in Does This Look Infected?. I then later realized the reason it sounded familiar was because of Handle This. Anyway, back on to Chuck. I instantly fell in love with No Reason when I first heard it. It was a loud song that said, "We're back (crazy) motherfuckers! We're Sum 41 and don't you ever forget it!" At least, that's what the beginning made me feel.
Nowadays, I look back and although it seems to mark a dark time not only in the band's sound, but in the band's relationship itself, there are a lot of masterpiece Sum 41 song in there. We're All to Blame becomes a fucking anthem in the final chorus and is easily one of the best songs the band has written, along with 88. Even Deryck thinks 88 is one of the best songs he's written as it shows that the band has talent. Acoustic guitars, piano, slow parts, fast parts, riffs and solos... The chorus is great and when the song ends into that weird alien sounding abyss, you can't help but reminisce on the whole album like, "Wow... that was Chuck."
Sorry for making this tl;dr for some people!
Re: The Epicness that is Chuck
Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 10:32 pm
by BanZ0
While I agree that Chuck is a great album, my favourite is probablly Underclass Hero (don't judge me), because of the songwriting. I really like Chuck's darker songs though
Re: The Epicness that is Chuck
Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 10:36 pm
by Jeremy Kill
BanZ0 wrote:While I agree that Chuck is a great album, my favourite is probablly Underclass Hero (don't judge me), because of the songwriting. I really like Chuck's darker songs though
Yeah, in terms of lyrics, I didn't really like Chuck. By the time I got to Angels with Dirty Faces, I found myself wondering how many times the word "blame" was used.
Re: The Epicness that is Chuck
Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 10:43 pm
by Peterr
I'm probably going to get shit but whateves
Underclass Hero > Chuck
Re: The Epicness that is Chuck
Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 11:00 pm
by Emil
When i first heard it i didn't really like it. It way heavier than anything else i listened to at the time but since then it has grown on me.
Re: The Epicness that is Chuck
Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 11:33 pm
by Astronaut
Jeremy Kill wrote:BanZ0 wrote:While I agree that Chuck is a great album, my favourite is probablly Underclass Hero (don't judge me), because of the songwriting. I really like Chuck's darker songs though
Yeah, in terms of lyrics, I didn't really like Chuck. By the time I got to Angels with Dirty Faces, I found myself wondering how many times the word "blame" was used.
They have a lot of words/phrase that are used in more then one of their songs. We're all to blame, some say, etc etc. I guess it kind of brought the album together, like a concept album, but it did get annoying.
Still, I like the lyrics before because of their serious tone, and I felt like I could relate to a bunch of them.
Some Noob with BAD taste in Music wrote:I'm probably going to get shit but whateves
Underclass Hero > Chuck
Lol, jk at the username. Whatever, opinions are opinions.
(Btw, Me > You)
Re: The Epicness that is Chuck
Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 11:36 pm
by Max
Chuck is alright. Underclass Hero is alright. I'm more of a AKNF/DTLI fan.
Re: The Epicness that is Chuck
Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 11:47 pm
by Zell1010
For me, Chuck was my least favourite of their albums when it came out. Back in the day I wasn't totally into the heavier guitar tones or metal influenced solos. Now I love the album, and I think it was overlooked by many people when it came out (especially as it came out after American Idiot). Whenever I mention Sum 41 to my friends here in England, alot of them say "whatever happened to them?"...
Re: The Epicness that is Chuck
Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 12:02 am
by Max
Zell1010 wrote:For me, Chuck was my least favourite of their albums when it came out. Back in the day I wasn't totally into the heavier guitar tones or metal influenced solos. Now I love the album, and I think it was overlooked by many people when it came out (especially as it came out after American Idiot). Whenever I mention Sum 41 to my friends here in England, alot of them say "whatever happened to them?"...
Haha yeh no one over here listens to them which is good because if all the retards were listening I probably wouldn't want to.
Re: The Epicness that is Chuck
Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 12:21 am
by SociallyInept
Just Peter wrote:Underclass Hero < Chuck
You clearly hit the wrong key. Don't worry I fixed it for you, I got your back.
Re: The Epicness that is Chuck
Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 12:59 am
by Noreason757
Chuck is definitely their best album my favorites go in order from this
Chuck
AKNF
Underclass Hero
DTLI
HHOP
I hope tht Screaming bloody murder will top all of these
Re: The Epicness that is Chuck
Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 1:07 am
by Simon
Jeremy Kill wrote:I didn't enjoy Chuck when it first came out. I felt it was too slow and depressing. It was just so much darker than anything the band had ever done. I remember the first listen on Some Say it was like:
"Wha... what's that at the beginning?... This song is so different, but it's like I've heard it before... I like it, but it's also weird..."
Then I realized: it was a slow song! Something Sum 41 never did in Does This Look Infected?. I then later realized the reason it sounded familiar was because of Handle This. Anyway, back on to Chuck. I instantly fell in love with No Reason when I first heard it. It was a loud song that said, "We're back (crazy) motherfuckers! We're Sum 41 and don't you ever forget it!" At least, that's what the beginning made me feel.
Nowadays, I look back and although it seems to mark a dark time not only in the band's sound, but in the band's relationship itself, there are a lot of masterpiece Sum 41 song in there. We're All to Blame becomes a fucking anthem in the final chorus and is easily one of the best songs the band has written, along with 88. Even Deryck thinks 88 is one of the best songs he's written as it shows that the band has talent. Acoustic guitars, piano, slow parts, fast parts, riffs and solos... The chorus is great and when the song ends into that weird alien sounding abyss, you can't help but reminisce on the whole album like, "Wow... that was Chuck."
Sorry for making this tl;dr for some people!
Nothing to add there. Almost 100% identical to my impressions. The Congo DVD also had a very strong impact on me, I can't even describe it.
Also this:
Max wrote:Zell1010 wrote:For me, Chuck was my least favourite of their albums when it came out. Back in the day I wasn't totally into the heavier guitar tones or metal influenced solos. Now I love the album, and I think it was overlooked by many people when it came out (especially as it came out after American Idiot). Whenever I mention Sum 41 to my friends here in England, alot of them say "whatever happened to them?"...
Haha yeh no one over here listens to them which is good because if all the retards were listening I probably wouldn't want to.
Re: The Epicness that is Chuck
Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 1:30 am
by Heather
Pieces was the song that made me fall in love with Sum41 & was the first album of theirs I bought. I listened to it a lot when I wasn't happy with things in my life. Some Say & 88 are amazing imo. SS for the lyrics, 88 for the combo of elements. I really like all their albums so I can't pick a "favorite" I have fave songs from all of them.
Re: The Epicness that is Chuck
Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 1:45 am
by sumfan4
When Chuck came out, I barely knew about Sum 41. I was in 6th grade, and had heard Fat Lip before (without knowing who it was by) and I saw The Hell Song's music video years before. My sister always watched Fuse, and I'd watch it alot with her. That was back when all the good music was coming out, back in 2004, like Sum41 obviously, and MCR had their first hit, and much more good stuff. I got hooked on Sum41 after my sister made me a mix CD with The Hell Song and Over My Head on it. Soon after, she burned me a copy of Chuck, and the rest is history! So Chuck plays a big role in the music I listen to. It got me started.
Re: The Epicness that is Chuck
Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 1:54 am
by Max
Pretty much agreeing with everyone -
I always got into their albums after their release, I didn't like DTLI until I got more into punk and I didn't like Chuck until I start listening to a bit of metal. They all just grew on me. AKNF was huge in the UK when it came out so naturally I liked it but it grew on me again when I was older and that's when I started getting into Sum 41 properly again.
Underclass Hero I got into at first because it was the stage where I had to like anything they made and then hated it for a bit because it wasn't the classic fast paced no piano pop punk I liked. Getting back into it a bit though.
Who knows what I'll be like with SBM.
Re: The Epicness that is Chuck
Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 4:57 am
by shadowred3
chuck was a turnning point for sum 41. also in my oppinion were they lost thier punk. my fav are still this and dtli