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Toms Voice

Posted: Sat May 01, 2010 1:16 am
by peacock41
We all know Tom can sing

but why does all his vocal for sum 41 sound awful .. its like derycks voice clashes and dont work well with toms ... or the sound guy dont mix them well ..

Re: Toms Voice

Posted: Sat May 01, 2010 2:57 am
by kILLDR3n
Not sure, but why won't he just sing normal like in the Paint It Black cover? The backing vocals for the CD versions of the songs are sort of what he's trying to do, but Dave always sang normal live and it sounded much better.

Re: Toms Voice

Posted: Sat May 01, 2010 9:57 am
by Tyler41
he sounds like a dying elephant that is getting raped by someone with a spikey dick

Re: Toms Voice

Posted: Sat May 01, 2010 10:02 am
by Boni
It mostly likely the way the microphone is setup and not his actually singing.

Re: Toms Voice

Posted: Sat May 01, 2010 10:09 am
by patenttiftw
Tyler41 wrote:he sounds like a dying elephant that is getting raped by someone with a spikey dick
Don't make me say what Tom Delonge sounds like nowadays...

Re: Toms Voice

Posted: Sat May 01, 2010 11:17 am
by peacock41
i dunnp like we all know he can sing .. but hes got sort or a rough voice maybe it jsst dont go well with D

Re: Toms Voice

Posted: Sat May 01, 2010 11:22 am
by Lars
He's just putting too much effort in it.

You remember the UH-live show they did on their site, right?

He did an amazing job back there, doing the backings for Walking Disaster etc.

They sounded awesome, because he could just sing and he didn't need to shout in that studio.

It's a different story when he's standing in front of thousands of people, I guess.

Re: Toms Voice

Posted: Sat May 01, 2010 11:38 am
by samueeL
Lol, his vocals sounded awful in that. He used auto-tune.

Re: Toms Voice

Posted: Sat May 01, 2010 12:23 pm
by Lars
I think he sounded better with the auto-tune than he does live right now.

That's just my opinion. Not saying he has to use the AT live though.

Re: Toms Voice

Posted: Sat May 01, 2010 12:40 pm
by samueeL
Are you serious? Listen to it again. Nothing sounds good with auto-tune. That's just fact.

Re: Toms Voice

Posted: Sat May 01, 2010 1:27 pm
by Lars
samueeL wrote:Are you serious? Listen to it again. Nothing sounds good with auto-tune. That's just fact.
Do you like the way he's singing right now live?

And it's not fact, it's opinion.

Re: Toms Voice

Posted: Sat May 01, 2010 9:42 pm
by Tyler41
Patentti wrote:
Tyler41 wrote:he sounds like a dying elephant that is getting raped by someone with a spikey dick
Don't make me say what Tom Delonge sounds like nowadays...
he isnt NEARLY as bad is browntom

Re: Toms Voice

Posted: Sat May 01, 2010 9:49 pm
by Heather
yeah I was a bit surprised during the live show that he sounded that way. I think he's shouting to much or something because thats not how his voice normally sounds

Re: Toms Voice

Posted: Sat May 01, 2010 10:45 pm
by Emil
Tyler41 wrote:
Patentti wrote:
Tyler41 wrote:he sounds like a dying elephant that is getting raped by someone with a spikey dick
Don't make me say what Tom Delonge sounds like nowadays...
he isnt NEARLY as bad is browntom
Easy there, don't say things that aren't true.
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Re: Toms Voice

Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 3:32 am
by spider-man
woah......did I just hear blink-182 playing a song live at album speed?.....no way!

Re: Toms Voice

Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 3:58 am
by Tyler41
Emil wrote:
Tyler41 wrote:
Patentti wrote:
Tyler41 wrote:he sounds like a dying elephant that is getting raped by someone with a spikey dick
Don't make me say what Tom Delonge sounds like nowadays...
he isnt NEARLY as bad is browntom
Easy there, don't say things that aren't true.
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i like how you choose the video when they first got back together and tom didnt have time to adjust to his blink sounding voice. once they got out on tour for awhile and he got used to it, he sounded better. basically every video of browntom, he sounds like straight shit.

Re: Toms Voice

Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 4:00 am
by Jake-41
samueeL wrote:Are you serious? Listen to it again. Nothing sounds good with auto-tune. That's just fact.
Why? It did sound good. Maybe he should use it live. Though, i have NO problem with them now.

Re: Toms Voice

Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 4:33 am
by Jeremy Kill
Tyler41 wrote:
Emil wrote:
Tyler41 wrote:
Patentti wrote:
Tyler41 wrote:he sounds like a dying elephant that is getting raped by someone with a spikey dick
Don't make me say what Tom Delonge sounds like nowadays...
he isnt NEARLY as bad is browntom
Easy there, don't say things that aren't true.
[youtube]<object width="500" height="405"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/k3vtRxoQ5-8&hl ... ram><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/k3vtRxoQ5-8&hl ... 0&border=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="500" height="405"></embed></object>[/youtube]
i like how you choose the video when they first got back together and tom didnt have time to adjust to his blink sounding voice. once they got out on tour for awhile and he got used to it, he sounded better. basically every video of browntom, he sounds like straight shit.
Sounded like Tom was trying to sing like that on purpose.

Re: Toms Voice

Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 4:40 am
by Jake-41
I can't help but lose interest after i freeze at 0:34.

On a side note, he did get better.


EDIT: Somebody said that whole "Orange lounge" show was auto-tuned.

Re: Toms Voice

Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 8:38 am
by Simon
Jake-41 wrote:
samueeL wrote:Are you serious? Listen to it again. Nothing sounds good with auto-tune. That's just fact.
Why? It did sound good. Maybe he should use it live. Though, i have NO problem with them now.
That performance made me cry inside. It is sad enough that all studio vocals these days are manually tuning corrected but when I heard Deryck and Tom sing with auto-tuning on their voices, I actually wanted to throw up in my pants for real.
The day Sum 41 starts using auto-tune at real live shows, will be the day I start sending them bodyparts of myself until they stop. That cannot and will not happen.

Auto-tune can sound good when it is used as an intentional soundeffect, but never when it is used to correct sloppy singing. End of discussion!

And this guy got it:
kILLDR3n wrote:The backing vocals for the CD versions of the songs are sort of what he's trying to do, but Dave always sang normal live and it sounded much better.
That is the whole problem in a nutshell. As I said in another topic before: You can't sing that high and powerful at the same time without sounding ridiculous, at least not the average rock band singer. So you have to make a choice: Either high and gentle or powerful and in an alternative pitch, like Dave did.