And why is that?sumfan4 wrote:If the government controls healthcare, we're all screwed.
get it thru ur heads
I lol'd sooo hard
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not sure like it or not war produces benefitsEmil wrote:If you can afford a war i think you can afford public healthcare.
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I guess it does but i guess it's pretty fucked if you rather spend your meoney to kill people than to save people.Still Waiting wrote:not sure like it or not war produces benefitsEmil wrote:If you can afford a war i think you can afford public healthcare.
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ever tried waiting in line at the DMV?Emil wrote:And why is that?sumfan4 wrote:If the government controls healthcare, we're all screwed.
get it thru ur heads
take a number
that's how
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What? There will still be priavte hospitals right? And we don't have DMV's here.
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I don't think it would be such a big possibility if we absolutely could not. What I'm saying is, if it's done right then it's possible.PTR wrote:and you seem to think that America can afford this.....?Bass Cone wrote:I'm not an economic expert so I don't know. But what I'm not going to do is throw out some random number because no one really knows for sure how much the cost will be yet.PTR wrote: Brittany, how much do you think it'll cost?
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Because Obama will just print more money. Heard of WWI?Bass Cone wrote:I don't think it would be such a big possibility if we absolutely could not. What I'm saying is, if it's done right then it's possible.PTR wrote:and you seem to think that America can afford this.....?Bass Cone wrote:I'm not an economic expert so I don't know. But what I'm not going to do is throw out some random number because no one really knows for sure how much the cost will be yet.PTR wrote: Brittany, how much do you think it'll cost?
Or is he going to take it away from Americans that he seems to think have money?
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And the insurance companies don't already do that? You're forgetting that private insurance costs money too. Right now I think it costs us around 2 trillion a year? I'm not advocating for Obama or his plan. I'm for elimination of the insurance companies.PTR wrote:Because Obama will just print more money. Heard of WWI?Bass Cone wrote:I don't think it would be such a big possibility if we absolutely could not. What I'm saying is, if it's done right then it's possible.PTR wrote:and you seem to think that America can afford this.....?Bass Cone wrote:I'm not an economic expert so I don't know. But what I'm not going to do is throw out some random number because no one really knows for sure how much the cost will be yet.PTR wrote: Brittany, how much do you think it'll cost?
Or is he going to take it away from Americans that he seems to think have money?
"National health spending is expected to reach $2.5 trillion in 2009, accounting for 17.6 percent of the gross domestic product (GDP). By 2018, national health care expenditures are expected to reach $4.4 trillionâ€â€more than double 2007 spending."
also
"Without health care reform, small businesses will pay nearly $2.4 trillion dollars over the next ten years in health care costs for their workers, 178,000 small business jobs will be lost by 2018 as a result of health care costs, $834 billion in small business wages will be lost due to high health care costs over the next ten years, small businesses will lose $52.1 billion in profits to high health care costs and 1.6 million small business workers will suffer “job lock“ roughly one in 16 people currently insured by their employers."
http://www.nchc.org/facts/cost.shtml
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That makes sense but I think removing insurance companies is to take it to far. But I live in Sweden so who am i to say what's best.Bass Cone wrote:And the insurance companies don't already do that? You're forgetting that private insurance costs money too. Right now I think it costs us around 2 trillion a year? I'm not advocating for Obama or his plan. I'm for elimination of the insurance companies.PTR wrote:Because Obama will just print more money. Heard of WWI?Bass Cone wrote:I don't think it would be such a big possibility if we absolutely could not. What I'm saying is, if it's done right then it's possible.PTR wrote:and you seem to think that America can afford this.....?Bass Cone wrote:I'm not an economic expert so I don't know. But what I'm not going to do is throw out some random number because no one really knows for sure how much the cost will be yet.PTR wrote: Brittany, how much do you think it'll cost?
Or is he going to take it away from Americans that he seems to think have money?
"National health spending is expected to reach $2.5 trillion in 2009, accounting for 17.6 percent of the gross domestic product (GDP). By 2018, national health care expenditures are expected to reach $4.4 trillionâ€â€more than double 2007 spending."
also
"Without health care reform, small businesses will pay nearly $2.4 trillion dollars over the next ten years in health care costs for their workers, 178,000 small business jobs will be lost by 2018 as a result of health care costs, $834 billion in small business wages will be lost due to high health care costs over the next ten years, small businesses will lose $52.1 billion in profits to high health care costs and 1.6 million small business workers will suffer “job lock“ roughly one in 16 people currently insured by their employers."
http://www.nchc.org/facts/cost.shtml
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you dont have insurances companies there in sweden ?Emil wrote:That makes sense but I think removing insurance companies is to take it to far. But I live in Sweden so who am i to say what's best.Bass Cone wrote:And the insurance companies don't already do that? You're forgetting that private insurance costs money too. Right now I think it costs us around 2 trillion a year? I'm not advocating for Obama or his plan. I'm for elimination of the insurance companies.PTR wrote:Because Obama will just print more money. Heard of WWI?Bass Cone wrote:I don't think it would be such a big possibility if we absolutely could not. What I'm saying is, if it's done right then it's possible.PTR wrote:and you seem to think that America can afford this.....?Bass Cone wrote:I'm not an economic expert so I don't know. But what I'm not going to do is throw out some random number because no one really knows for sure how much the cost will be yet.PTR wrote: Brittany, how much do you think it'll cost?
Or is he going to take it away from Americans that he seems to think have money?
"National health spending is expected to reach $2.5 trillion in 2009, accounting for 17.6 percent of the gross domestic product (GDP). By 2018, national health care expenditures are expected to reach $4.4 trillionâ€â€more than double 2007 spending."
also
"Without health care reform, small businesses will pay nearly $2.4 trillion dollars over the next ten years in health care costs for their workers, 178,000 small business jobs will be lost by 2018 as a result of health care costs, $834 billion in small business wages will be lost due to high health care costs over the next ten years, small businesses will lose $52.1 billion in profits to high health care costs and 1.6 million small business workers will suffer “job lock“ roughly one in 16 people currently insured by their employers."
http://www.nchc.org/facts/cost.shtml
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Of course we do. I got a shitload of money from them when i broke my leg. But we also have public health care and private health care.Still Waiting wrote:you dont have insurances companies there in sweden ?Emil wrote:That makes sense but I think removing insurance companies is to take it to far. But I live in Sweden so who am i to say what's best.Bass Cone wrote:And the insurance companies don't already do that? You're forgetting that private insurance costs money too. Right now I think it costs us around 2 trillion a year? I'm not advocating for Obama or his plan. I'm for elimination of the insurance companies.PTR wrote:Because Obama will just print more money. Heard of WWI?Bass Cone wrote:I don't think it would be such a big possibility if we absolutely could not. What I'm saying is, if it's done right then it's possible.PTR wrote:and you seem to think that America can afford this.....?Bass Cone wrote:I'm not an economic expert so I don't know. But what I'm not going to do is throw out some random number because no one really knows for sure how much the cost will be yet.PTR wrote: Brittany, how much do you think it'll cost?
Or is he going to take it away from Americans that he seems to think have money?
"National health spending is expected to reach $2.5 trillion in 2009, accounting for 17.6 percent of the gross domestic product (GDP). By 2018, national health care expenditures are expected to reach $4.4 trillionâ€â€more than double 2007 spending."
also
"Without health care reform, small businesses will pay nearly $2.4 trillion dollars over the next ten years in health care costs for their workers, 178,000 small business jobs will be lost by 2018 as a result of health care costs, $834 billion in small business wages will be lost due to high health care costs over the next ten years, small businesses will lose $52.1 billion in profits to high health care costs and 1.6 million small business workers will suffer “job lock“ roughly one in 16 people currently insured by their employers."
http://www.nchc.org/facts/cost.shtml
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Well obviously we can't really afford both right now, so it's one or the other.Emil wrote: That makes sense but I think removing insurance companies is to take it to far. But I live in Sweden so who am i to say what's best.
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Isn't insurance companies private owned? So it isn't tax money that pays for those right?
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yeah i thought you did but i just wanted to make sureEmil wrote:Of course we do. I got a shitload of money from them when i broke my leg. But we also have public health care and private health care.Still Waiting wrote:you dont have insurances companies there in sweden ?Emil wrote:That makes sense but I think removing insurance companies is to take it to far. But I live in Sweden so who am i to say what's best.Bass Cone wrote:And the insurance companies don't already do that? You're forgetting that private insurance costs money too. Right now I think it costs us around 2 trillion a year? I'm not advocating for Obama or his plan. I'm for elimination of the insurance companies.PTR wrote:Because Obama will just print more money. Heard of WWI?Bass Cone wrote:I don't think it would be such a big possibility if we absolutely could not. What I'm saying is, if it's done right then it's possible.PTR wrote:and you seem to think that America can afford this.....?Bass Cone wrote:I'm not an economic expert so I don't know. But what I'm not going to do is throw out some random number because no one really knows for sure how much the cost will be yet.PTR wrote: Brittany, how much do you think it'll cost?
Or is he going to take it away from Americans that he seems to think have money?
"National health spending is expected to reach $2.5 trillion in 2009, accounting for 17.6 percent of the gross domestic product (GDP). By 2018, national health care expenditures are expected to reach $4.4 trillionâ€â€more than double 2007 spending."
also
"Without health care reform, small businesses will pay nearly $2.4 trillion dollars over the next ten years in health care costs for their workers, 178,000 small business jobs will be lost by 2018 as a result of health care costs, $834 billion in small business wages will be lost due to high health care costs over the next ten years, small businesses will lose $52.1 billion in profits to high health care costs and 1.6 million small business workers will suffer “job lock“ roughly one in 16 people currently insured by their employers."
http://www.nchc.org/facts/cost.shtml
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Doesn't all civilised countries ahve that?Still Waiting wrote:yeah i thought you did but i just wanted to make sureEmil wrote:Of course we do. I got a shitload of money from them when i broke my leg. But we also have public health care and private health care.Still Waiting wrote:you dont have insurances companies there in sweden ?Emil wrote:That makes sense but I think removing insurance companies is to take it to far. But I live in Sweden so who am i to say what's best.Bass Cone wrote:And the insurance companies don't already do that? You're forgetting that private insurance costs money too. Right now I think it costs us around 2 trillion a year? I'm not advocating for Obama or his plan. I'm for elimination of the insurance companies.PTR wrote:Because Obama will just print more money. Heard of WWI?Bass Cone wrote:I don't think it would be such a big possibility if we absolutely could not. What I'm saying is, if it's done right then it's possible.PTR wrote:and you seem to think that America can afford this.....?Bass Cone wrote:I'm not an economic expert so I don't know. But what I'm not going to do is throw out some random number because no one really knows for sure how much the cost will be yet.PTR wrote: Brittany, how much do you think it'll cost?
Or is he going to take it away from Americans that he seems to think have money?
"National health spending is expected to reach $2.5 trillion in 2009, accounting for 17.6 percent of the gross domestic product (GDP). By 2018, national health care expenditures are expected to reach $4.4 trillionâ€â€more than double 2007 spending."
also
"Without health care reform, small businesses will pay nearly $2.4 trillion dollars over the next ten years in health care costs for their workers, 178,000 small business jobs will be lost by 2018 as a result of health care costs, $834 billion in small business wages will be lost due to high health care costs over the next ten years, small businesses will lose $52.1 billion in profits to high health care costs and 1.6 million small business workers will suffer “job lock“ roughly one in 16 people currently insured by their employers."
http://www.nchc.org/facts/cost.shtml
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Well the people have to pay for their insurance or get it through their employer who has to buy a benefit package from them for their company.Emil wrote:Isn't insurance companies private owned? So it isn't tax money that pays for those right?
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Here we are insured throw school and have a private insurance to. And we have both public insurance and public healthcare.Bass Cone wrote:Well the people have to pay for their insurance or get it through their employer who has to buy a benefit package from them for their company.Emil wrote:Isn't insurance companies private owned? So it isn't tax money that pays for those right?
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does that even exist ?Emil wrote:Doesn't all civilised countries ahve that?Still Waiting wrote:yeah i thought you did but i just wanted to make sureEmil wrote:Of course we do. I got a shitload of money from them when i broke my leg. But we also have public health care and private health care.Still Waiting wrote:you dont have insurances companies there in sweden ?Emil wrote:That makes sense but I think removing insurance companies is to take it to far. But I live in Sweden so who am i to say what's best.Bass Cone wrote:And the insurance companies don't already do that? You're forgetting that private insurance costs money too. Right now I think it costs us around 2 trillion a year? I'm not advocating for Obama or his plan. I'm for elimination of the insurance companies.PTR wrote:Because Obama will just print more money. Heard of WWI?Bass Cone wrote:I don't think it would be such a big possibility if we absolutely could not. What I'm saying is, if it's done right then it's possible.PTR wrote:and you seem to think that America can afford this.....?Bass Cone wrote: I'm not an economic expert so I don't know. But what I'm not going to do is throw out some random number because no one really knows for sure how much the cost will be yet.
Or is he going to take it away from Americans that he seems to think have money?
"National health spending is expected to reach $2.5 trillion in 2009, accounting for 17.6 percent of the gross domestic product (GDP). By 2018, national health care expenditures are expected to reach $4.4 trillionâ€â€more than double 2007 spending."
also
"Without health care reform, small businesses will pay nearly $2.4 trillion dollars over the next ten years in health care costs for their workers, 178,000 small business jobs will be lost by 2018 as a result of health care costs, $834 billion in small business wages will be lost due to high health care costs over the next ten years, small businesses will lose $52.1 billion in profits to high health care costs and 1.6 million small business workers will suffer “job lock“ roughly one in 16 people currently insured by their employers."
http://www.nchc.org/facts/cost.shtml
funny thing is that my parents work in that kind of business ...so insurance companies ftw
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what do you mean by private?Emil wrote:What? There will still be priavte hospitals right? And we don't have DMV's here.
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easy ... hospitals ruled by opus dei or any other rich institutionsumfan4 wrote:what do you mean by private?Emil wrote:What? There will still be priavte hospitals right? And we don't have DMV's here.