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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 10:35 pm
by Hentaiman
yeah, and they also contribute to the lyrics, and they get the credit for that.
Dave is a different story cuz i mean, since he left, people were bitter about sum, and some haven't even realized Deryck wrote most of the solos and all.
Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 4:56 am
by Asho_DirtyPoo
Hentaiman wrote: Deryck does the most in the writing and all, and sometimes UH felt like a Deryck solo project. Plus, he took over Cone's bass but i found that rude and... not fitting as a band.
That's the only album I truly dislike...so maybe, it's not that I'm just a Dave fan - it's that I dislike Deryck?
Interesting haha
Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 4:57 am
by Asho_DirtyPoo
Hentaiman wrote: Deryck wrote most of the solos and all.
Honestly, I don't believe that for a second.
But again, it's one band member's word against another...so really - someone's gotta be lying. We all get to choose who we believe.
Byzzy wrote:^^so if you are a fan of dave instead of sum 41 you should be in a brown brigade forum since they're the best band of the world to u
I joined this site to use the Brown Brigade part of the forum. Which is mainly what I do. And I do use Brown Brigade forums as well.
And also, I'm not a moron, and don't think that just because I like a band they are the "best band in the world". That's ridiculous and ignorant - as I've never heard every band in the world.
Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 9:06 am
by Jeremy Kill
Phili wrote:The thing is, everyone in the band, including Dave, has said that all the melodies came from Deryck. And that's what makes the song.
I hate how some melodies are pretty much the same on two different songs at certain parts in the Underclass Hero album though.
I also don't think the majority of solos came from Deryck since he said himself that solos are wank. Dave even said on Much News that "all he wrote were solos." I'm sure Deryck wrote a couple and played a few on the recordings.
I do believe Deryck comes up with a big chunk of the music/melody since in previous recordings Stevo would play to an early scratch guitar version of the song and most likely based his drumming accordingly.
I think there was more of what I was going to say... but yeah, even though I do enjoy Underclass Hero, I still think, as a whole, it isn't as good as the albums before it.
Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 12:01 pm
by Bobbyjames
im gonna have to say AKNF, although it is a great album, i just love the others more. but it was close between AKNF and UH, there are just some elements i prefer on UH
Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 5:39 pm
by Asho_DirtyPoo
Gunner wrote:Phili wrote:The thing is, everyone in the band, including Dave, has said that all the melodies came from Deryck. And that's what makes the song.
I hate how some melodies are pretty much the same on two different songs at certain parts in the Underclass Hero album though.
I also don't think the majority of solos came from Deryck since he said himself that solos are wank. Dave even said on Much News that "all he wrote were solos." I'm sure Deryck wrote a couple and played a few on the recordings.
I do believe Deryck comes up with a big chunk of the music/melody since in previous recordings Stevo would play to an early scratch guitar version of the song and most likely based his drumming accordingly.
I think there was more of what I was going to say... but yeah, even though I do enjoy Underclass Hero, I still think, as a whole, it isn't as good as the albums before it.
I like you more and more with each post haha. We seem to think pretty alike.
Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 8:03 pm
by Byzzy
Asho_DirtyPoo wrote:Hentaiman wrote: Deryck wrote most of the solos and all.
Honestly, I don't believe that for a second.
But again, it's one band member's word against another...so really - someone's gotta be lying. We all get to choose who we believe.
Byzzy wrote:^^so if you are a fan of dave instead of sum 41 you should be in a brown brigade forum since they're the best band of the world to u
I joined this site to use the Brown Brigade part of the forum. Which is mainly what I do. And I do use Brown Brigade forums as well.
And also, I'm not a moron, and don't think that just because I like a band they are the "best band in the world". That's ridiculous and ignorant - as I've never heard every band in the world.
whatever u say dude, enjoy brown brigade
Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 10:57 pm
by Asho_DirtyPoo
Byzzy wrote:whatever u say dude, enjoy brown brigade
I will and do, thank you.
Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 11:09 pm
by Tiny *[Banned]*
I agree with Hentaiman UH did feel like a Deryck solo project I mean the lyrics were practicaly about him or about what he thought.
Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 12:01 am
by TomiT14
Tiny wrote:I agree with Hentaiman UH did feel like a Deryck solo project I mean the lyrics were practicaly about him or about what he thought.
Yeah, not to mention the album cover.
Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 12:37 am
by Byzzy
stevo's on does this look infected...
Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 1:18 am
by I'm A Cunt [*banned*]
Byzzy wrote:stevo's on does this look infected...
And HHOP
Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 3:58 am
by Phili
And AKNF, actually.
Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 3:59 am
by Dylan
there all on AKNF, plus some other random people...
Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 4:02 am
by Phili
lmao, yeah, but he's still on it.
Steve's also on the Motivation cover, apparently.
Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 4:14 pm
by TomiT14
Byzzy wrote:stevo's on does this look infected...
Um, so? I was referring to Tiny's post, where he talked about UH, not about all Sum CDs.
Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 4:27 pm
by I'm A Cunt [*banned*]
TomiT14 wrote:Byzzy wrote:stevo's on does this look infected...
Um, so? I was referring to Tiny's post, where he talked about UH, not about all Sum CDs.
Just sayin, just coz he was on the cover doesnt meAn anything. Steve was on more.
Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 5:20 pm
by TomiT14
sumfan wrote:Just sayin, just coz he was on the cover doesnt meAn anything. Steve was on more.
Yeah, well, there's a some kind of theme when Stevo is on the cover. Like in DTLI, he was like a zombie or something, well, AKNF was quite random, and in HHOP he was wearing some unordinary outfit. But in UH, it's just Deryck spitting there. In fact, I don't know what I'm trying to say, but the cover in UH shouldn't be only about Deryck. Yeah, the lyrics are about him, but it's still a record made by a band. So i would've preferred something else as a cover, like the sacred heart or something.
kthxbi
Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 5:24 pm
by I'm A Cunt [*banned*]
TomiT14 wrote:sumfan wrote:Just sayin, just coz he was on the cover doesnt meAn anything. Steve was on more.
Yeah, well, there's a some kind of theme when Stevo is on the cover. Like in DTLI, he was like a zombie or something, well, AKNF was quite random, and in HHOP he was wearing some unordinary outfit. But in UH, it's just Deryck spitting there. In fact, I don't know what I'm trying to say, but the cover in UH shouldn't be only about Deryck. Yeah, the lyrics are about him, but it's still a record made by a band. So i would've preferred something else as a cover, like the sacred heart or something.
kthxbi
lmao. a normal outfit??? he was in a tank with boxers and a squirt gun with a valcano behind him!!!!!
i like the cover of UH :D I think its the concept. UH is Derycks feelings ect. him spitting on the cover is a medaphor for him spitting it all out into the album.All his feelings and "Gutter Dreams".
I dont think it was a "solo project" from Deryck. but it is KINDA. He deserves an album mostly about him for leading Sum all these years and doing such awesome things and just being awesome.
Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 5:36 pm
by Hentaiman
sumfan wrote:TomiT14 wrote:sumfan wrote:Just sayin, just coz he was on the cover doesnt meAn anything. Steve was on more.
Yeah, well, there's a some kind of theme when Stevo is on the cover. Like in DTLI, he was like a zombie or something, well, AKNF was quite random, and in HHOP he was wearing some unordinary outfit. But in UH, it's just Deryck spitting there. In fact, I don't know what I'm trying to say, but the cover in UH shouldn't be only about Deryck. Yeah, the lyrics are about him, but it's still a record made by a band. So i would've preferred something else as a cover, like the sacred heart or something.
kthxbi
lmao. a normal outfit??? he was in a tank with boxers and a squirt gun with a valcano behind him!!!!!
i like the cover of UH :D I think its the concept. UH is Derycks feelings ect. him spitting on the cover is a medaphor for him spitting it all out into the album.All his feelings and "Gutter Dreams".
I dont think it was a "solo project" from Deryck. but it is KINDA. He deserves an album mostly about him for leading Sum all these years and doing such awesome things and just being awesome.
well and yeah, that's what a solo project is, i agree he deserves this stuff, but UH feels so much like a solo project... that like... Deryck, just go on and do your solo project.
I mean, Deryck also can drum , and every guitarist can learn bass, so in the whole idea, Deryck can do a solo album where he could also do all the instruments, and that's how UH felt anyway.
Oh, and UH's cover is the first cover that actually features a band member and is serious.
I mean, Chuck was serious but wasn't featuring the sums, and AKNF, DTLI and HHOP were humorous.
HHOP's cover was a actually a parody on Megadeth's cover of "So Far, So Good... So What?!".