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sumfan4 wrote:If the government controls healthcare, we're all screwed.
get it thru ur heads

And why is that?

Emil wrote:If you can afford a war i think you can afford public healthcare.

not sure like it or not war produces benefits

Still Waiting wrote:

Emil wrote:If you can afford a war i think you can afford public healthcare.

not sure like it or not war produces benefits

I guess it does but i guess it's pretty fucked if you rather spend your meoney to kill people than to save people.

Emil wrote:

sumfan4 wrote:If the government controls healthcare, we're all screwed.
get it thru ur heads

And why is that?

ever tried waiting in line at the DMV?
take a number
that's how

What? There will still be priavte hospitals right? And we don't have DMV's here.

PTR wrote:

Bass Cone wrote:

PTR wrote: Brittany, how much do you think it'll cost?

I'm not an economic expert so I don't know. But what I'm not going to do is throw out some random number because no one really knows for sure how much the cost will be yet.

and you seem to think that America can afford this.....?

I don't think it would be such a big possibility if we absolutely could not. What I'm saying is, if it's done right then it's possible.

Bass Cone wrote:

PTR wrote:

Bass Cone wrote:

PTR wrote: Brittany, how much do you think it'll cost?

I'm not an economic expert so I don't know. But what I'm not going to do is throw out some random number because no one really knows for sure how much the cost will be yet.

and you seem to think that America can afford this.....?

I don't think it would be such a big possibility if we absolutely could not. What I'm saying is, if it's done right then it's possible.

Because Obama will just print more money. Heard of WWI?
Or is he going to take it away from Americans that he seems to think have money?

PTR wrote:

Bass Cone wrote:

PTR wrote:

Bass Cone wrote:

PTR wrote: Brittany, how much do you think it'll cost?

I'm not an economic expert so I don't know. But what I'm not going to do is throw out some random number because no one really knows for sure how much the cost will be yet.

and you seem to think that America can afford this.....?

I don't think it would be such a big possibility if we absolutely could not. What I'm saying is, if it's done right then it's possible.

Because Obama will just print more money. Heard of WWI?
Or is he going to take it away from Americans that he seems to think have money?

And the insurance companies don't already do that? You're forgetting that private insurance costs money too. Right now I think it costs us around 2 trillion a year? I'm not advocating for Obama or his plan. I'm for elimination of the insurance companies.
"National health spending is expected to reach $2.5 trillion in 2009, accounting for 17.6 percent of the gross domestic product (GDP). By 2018, national health care expenditures are expected to reach $4.4 trillion—more than double 2007 spending."

also
"Without health care reform, small businesses will pay nearly $2.4 trillion dollars over the next ten years in health care costs for their workers, 178,000 small business jobs will be lost by 2018 as a result of health care costs, $834 billion in small business wages will be lost due to high health care costs over the next ten years, small businesses will lose $52.1 billion in profits to high health care costs and 1.6 million small business workers will suffer “job lock“— roughly one in 16 people currently insured by their employers."
http://www.nchc.org/facts/cost.shtml

Bass Cone wrote:

PTR wrote:

Bass Cone wrote:

PTR wrote:

Bass Cone wrote:

PTR wrote: Brittany, how much do you think it'll cost?

I'm not an economic expert so I don't know. But what I'm not going to do is throw out some random number because no one really knows for sure how much the cost will be yet.

and you seem to think that America can afford this.....?

I don't think it would be such a big possibility if we absolutely could not. What I'm saying is, if it's done right then it's possible.

Because Obama will just print more money. Heard of WWI?
Or is he going to take it away from Americans that he seems to think have money?

And the insurance companies don't already do that? You're forgetting that private insurance costs money too. Right now I think it costs us around 2 trillion a year? I'm not advocating for Obama or his plan. I'm for elimination of the insurance companies.
"National health spending is expected to reach $2.5 trillion in 2009, accounting for 17.6 percent of the gross domestic product (GDP). By 2018, national health care expenditures are expected to reach $4.4 trillion—more than double 2007 spending."

also
"Without health care reform, small businesses will pay nearly $2.4 trillion dollars over the next ten years in health care costs for their workers, 178,000 small business jobs will be lost by 2018 as a result of health care costs, $834 billion in small business wages will be lost due to high health care costs over the next ten years, small businesses will lose $52.1 billion in profits to high health care costs and 1.6 million small business workers will suffer “job lock“— roughly one in 16 people currently insured by their employers."
http://www.nchc.org/facts/cost.shtml

That makes sense but I think removing insurance companies is to take it to far. But I live in Sweden so who am i to say what's best.

Emil wrote:

Bass Cone wrote:

PTR wrote:

Bass Cone wrote:

PTR wrote:

Bass Cone wrote:

PTR wrote: Brittany, how much do you think it'll cost?

I'm not an economic expert so I don't know. But what I'm not going to do is throw out some random number because no one really knows for sure how much the cost will be yet.

and you seem to think that America can afford this.....?

I don't think it would be such a big possibility if we absolutely could not. What I'm saying is, if it's done right then it's possible.

Because Obama will just print more money. Heard of WWI?
Or is he going to take it away from Americans that he seems to think have money?

And the insurance companies don't already do that? You're forgetting that private insurance costs money too. Right now I think it costs us around 2 trillion a year? I'm not advocating for Obama or his plan. I'm for elimination of the insurance companies.
"National health spending is expected to reach $2.5 trillion in 2009, accounting for 17.6 percent of the gross domestic product (GDP). By 2018, national health care expenditures are expected to reach $4.4 trillion—more than double 2007 spending."

also
"Without health care reform, small businesses will pay nearly $2.4 trillion dollars over the next ten years in health care costs for their workers, 178,000 small business jobs will be lost by 2018 as a result of health care costs, $834 billion in small business wages will be lost due to high health care costs over the next ten years, small businesses will lose $52.1 billion in profits to high health care costs and 1.6 million small business workers will suffer “job lock“— roughly one in 16 people currently insured by their employers."
http://www.nchc.org/facts/cost.shtml

That makes sense but I think removing insurance companies is to take it to far. But I live in Sweden so who am i to say what's best.

you dont have insurances companies there in sweden ?

Still Waiting wrote:

Emil wrote:

Bass Cone wrote:

PTR wrote:

Bass Cone wrote:

PTR wrote:

Bass Cone wrote:

PTR wrote: Brittany, how much do you think it'll cost?

I'm not an economic expert so I don't know. But what I'm not going to do is throw out some random number because no one really knows for sure how much the cost will be yet.

and you seem to think that America can afford this.....?

I don't think it would be such a big possibility if we absolutely could not. What I'm saying is, if it's done right then it's possible.

Because Obama will just print more money. Heard of WWI?
Or is he going to take it away from Americans that he seems to think have money?

And the insurance companies don't already do that? You're forgetting that private insurance costs money too. Right now I think it costs us around 2 trillion a year? I'm not advocating for Obama or his plan. I'm for elimination of the insurance companies.
"National health spending is expected to reach $2.5 trillion in 2009, accounting for 17.6 percent of the gross domestic product (GDP). By 2018, national health care expenditures are expected to reach $4.4 trillion—more than double 2007 spending."

also
"Without health care reform, small businesses will pay nearly $2.4 trillion dollars over the next ten years in health care costs for their workers, 178,000 small business jobs will be lost by 2018 as a result of health care costs, $834 billion in small business wages will be lost due to high health care costs over the next ten years, small businesses will lose $52.1 billion in profits to high health care costs and 1.6 million small business workers will suffer “job lock“— roughly one in 16 people currently insured by their employers."
http://www.nchc.org/facts/cost.shtml

That makes sense but I think removing insurance companies is to take it to far. But I live in Sweden so who am i to say what's best.

you dont have insurances companies there in sweden ?

Of course we do. I got a shitload of money from them when i broke my leg. But we also have public health care and private health care.

Emil wrote: That makes sense but I think removing insurance companies is to take it to far. But I live in Sweden so who am i to say what's best.

Well obviously we can't really afford both right now, so it's one or the other.

Isn't insurance companies private owned? So it isn't tax money that pays for those right?

Emil wrote:

Still Waiting wrote:

Emil wrote:

Bass Cone wrote:

PTR wrote:

Bass Cone wrote:

PTR wrote:

Bass Cone wrote:

PTR wrote: Brittany, how much do you think it'll cost?

I'm not an economic expert so I don't know. But what I'm not going to do is throw out some random number because no one really knows for sure how much the cost will be yet.

and you seem to think that America can afford this.....?

I don't think it would be such a big possibility if we absolutely could not. What I'm saying is, if it's done right then it's possible.

Because Obama will just print more money. Heard of WWI?
Or is he going to take it away from Americans that he seems to think have money?

And the insurance companies don't already do that? You're forgetting that private insurance costs money too. Right now I think it costs us around 2 trillion a year? I'm not advocating for Obama or his plan. I'm for elimination of the insurance companies.
"National health spending is expected to reach $2.5 trillion in 2009, accounting for 17.6 percent of the gross domestic product (GDP). By 2018, national health care expenditures are expected to reach $4.4 trillion—more than double 2007 spending."

also
"Without health care reform, small businesses will pay nearly $2.4 trillion dollars over the next ten years in health care costs for their workers, 178,000 small business jobs will be lost by 2018 as a result of health care costs, $834 billion in small business wages will be lost due to high health care costs over the next ten years, small businesses will lose $52.1 billion in profits to high health care costs and 1.6 million small business workers will suffer “job lock“— roughly one in 16 people currently insured by their employers."
http://www.nchc.org/facts/cost.shtml

That makes sense but I think removing insurance companies is to take it to far. But I live in Sweden so who am i to say what's best.

you dont have insurances companies there in sweden ?

Of course we do. I got a shitload of money from them when i broke my leg. But we also have public health care and private health care.

yeah i thought you did but i just wanted to make sure

Still Waiting wrote:

Emil wrote:

Still Waiting wrote:

Emil wrote:

Bass Cone wrote:

PTR wrote:

Bass Cone wrote:

PTR wrote:

Bass Cone wrote:

PTR wrote: Brittany, how much do you think it'll cost?

I'm not an economic expert so I don't know. But what I'm not going to do is throw out some random number because no one really knows for sure how much the cost will be yet.

and you seem to think that America can afford this.....?

I don't think it would be such a big possibility if we absolutely could not. What I'm saying is, if it's done right then it's possible.

Because Obama will just print more money. Heard of WWI?
Or is he going to take it away from Americans that he seems to think have money?

And the insurance companies don't already do that? You're forgetting that private insurance costs money too. Right now I think it costs us around 2 trillion a year? I'm not advocating for Obama or his plan. I'm for elimination of the insurance companies.
"National health spending is expected to reach $2.5 trillion in 2009, accounting for 17.6 percent of the gross domestic product (GDP). By 2018, national health care expenditures are expected to reach $4.4 trillion—more than double 2007 spending."

also
"Without health care reform, small businesses will pay nearly $2.4 trillion dollars over the next ten years in health care costs for their workers, 178,000 small business jobs will be lost by 2018 as a result of health care costs, $834 billion in small business wages will be lost due to high health care costs over the next ten years, small businesses will lose $52.1 billion in profits to high health care costs and 1.6 million small business workers will suffer “job lock“— roughly one in 16 people currently insured by their employers."
http://www.nchc.org/facts/cost.shtml

That makes sense but I think removing insurance companies is to take it to far. But I live in Sweden so who am i to say what's best.

you dont have insurances companies there in sweden ?

Of course we do. I got a shitload of money from them when i broke my leg. But we also have public health care and private health care.

yeah i thought you did but i just wanted to make sure

Doesn't all civilised countries ahve that?

Emil wrote:Isn't insurance companies private owned? So it isn't tax money that pays for those right?

Well the people have to pay for their insurance or get it through their employer who has to buy a benefit package from them for their company.

Bass Cone wrote:

Emil wrote:Isn't insurance companies private owned? So it isn't tax money that pays for those right?

Well the people have to pay for their insurance or get it through their employer who has to buy a benefit package from them for their company.

Here we are insured throw school and have a private insurance to. And we have both public insurance and public healthcare.

Emil wrote:

Still Waiting wrote:

Emil wrote:

Still Waiting wrote:

Emil wrote:

Bass Cone wrote:

PTR wrote:

Bass Cone wrote:

PTR wrote:

Bass Cone wrote: I'm not an economic expert so I don't know. But what I'm not going to do is throw out some random number because no one really knows for sure how much the cost will be yet.

and you seem to think that America can afford this.....?

I don't think it would be such a big possibility if we absolutely could not. What I'm saying is, if it's done right then it's possible.

Because Obama will just print more money. Heard of WWI?
Or is he going to take it away from Americans that he seems to think have money?

And the insurance companies don't already do that? You're forgetting that private insurance costs money too. Right now I think it costs us around 2 trillion a year? I'm not advocating for Obama or his plan. I'm for elimination of the insurance companies.
"National health spending is expected to reach $2.5 trillion in 2009, accounting for 17.6 percent of the gross domestic product (GDP). By 2018, national health care expenditures are expected to reach $4.4 trillion—more than double 2007 spending."

also
"Without health care reform, small businesses will pay nearly $2.4 trillion dollars over the next ten years in health care costs for their workers, 178,000 small business jobs will be lost by 2018 as a result of health care costs, $834 billion in small business wages will be lost due to high health care costs over the next ten years, small businesses will lose $52.1 billion in profits to high health care costs and 1.6 million small business workers will suffer “job lock“— roughly one in 16 people currently insured by their employers."
http://www.nchc.org/facts/cost.shtml

That makes sense but I think removing insurance companies is to take it to far. But I live in Sweden so who am i to say what's best.

you dont have insurances companies there in sweden ?

Of course we do. I got a shitload of money from them when i broke my leg. But we also have public health care and private health care.

yeah i thought you did but i just wanted to make sure

Doesn't all civilised countries ahve that?

does that even exist ?
funny thing is that my parents work in that kind of business ...so insurance companies ftw

Emil wrote:What? There will still be priavte hospitals right? And we don't have DMV's here.

what do you mean by private?

sumfan4 wrote:

Emil wrote:What? There will still be priavte hospitals right? And we don't have DMV's here.

what do you mean by private?

easy ... hospitals ruled by opus dei or any other rich institution