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Gibsum 41 wrote:^ ^ You defend him too much.
I'm not arguing that there were worse presidents than him but you can't possibly say he was a good president because other people would "1000 times worse president than he is." If he couldn't take the responsibility of the most powerful country on the planet, he shouldn't have taken it.
Besides, he keeps spending billions of dollars to keep Mexican immigrants out and continue with the war in Iraq when that country has a lot more to worry about right now. He brought the US economy from one of it's highest points in history to what's probably the lowest.
You can't possibly say he was a good president.

tl;dr

Me or Luke???

daredbus wrote:

Gibsum 41 wrote:^ ^ You defend him too much.
I'm not arguing that there were worse presidents than him but you can't possibly say he was a good president because other people would "1000 times worse president than he is." If he couldn't take the responsibility of the most powerful country on the planet, he shouldn't have taken it.
Besides, he keeps spending billions of dollars to keep Mexican immigrants out and continue with the war in Iraq when that country has a lot more to worry about right now. He brought the US economy from one of it's highest points in history to what's probably the lowest.
You can't possibly say he was a good president.

tl;dr

Me or Luke???

Luke, I tried quoting him but it made my post too big.

fox would rather cover this than something else more important

Gibsum 41 wrote:^ ^ You defend him too much.
I'm not arguing that there were worse presidents than him but you can't possibly say he was a good president because other people would "1000 times worse president than he is." If he couldn't take the responsibility of the most powerful country on the planet, he shouldn't have taken it.
Besides, he keeps spending billions of dollars to keep Mexican immigrants out and continue with the war in Iraq when that country has a lot more to worry about right now. He brought the US economy from one of it's highest points in history to what's probably the lowest.
You can't possibly say he was a good president.

okay, it wasnt his fault directly, but he certainly didnt help

LOL omg, I was gonna start a topic about that but then I said 'nah..'
xD I actually saw that live. my parents were wacthing the news, I was sitting in the same room.. when suddenly I hear someone yelling in arabic and i JUMPED and the 7up I was holding spilt all over the floor xD it was actually hilarious the way Bush ducked :P

Billy41 wrote:I understand he doesnt like bush but throwing your shoes sucks cuz you have to go home with no shoes

o.0 i would've never thought of that. You're smart.
I can't believe that dude missed! haha it would've been real funny if he was actually hit.
even better, knocked out xD

sara41 wrote:

Billy41 wrote:I understand he doesnt like bush but throwing your shoes sucks cuz you have to go home with no shoes

o.0 i would've never thought of that. You're smart.
I can't believe that dude missed! haha it would've been real funny if he was actually hit.
even better, knocked out xD

that....would....be.....epic

LTS wrote:3. USA's Economy is in ruins (probably not his fault, but people sure are blaming it on him)

I think the trillions of dollars spent on the Iraq and Afghan wars is partly to blame for that.

Gibsum 41 wrote:^ ^ You defend him too much.
I'm not arguing that there were worse presidents than him but you can't possibly say he was a good president because other people would "1000 times worse president than he is." If he couldn't take the responsibility of the most powerful country on the planet, he shouldn't have taken it.
Besides, he keeps spending billions of dollars to keep Mexican immigrants out and continue with the war in Iraq when that country has a lot more to worry about right now. He brought the US economy from one of it's highest points in history to what's probably the lowest.
You can't possibly say he was a good president.

Yes, i can possibly say he's a great president... Why? because i think so. and i'm entitled to my opinion. The way he lead our country after 9/11... He may have the lowest approval rating of any president ever, but he also had the highest of any president ever... that's an accomplishment in my books...
(prepare for another whacky luke metaphor)
His presidency is like O.J. Simpson's life... He was amazing at what he did and everyone loved him when he was at the top of his game, but now, everyone hates him...

Gibsum 41 wrote:^ ^ You defend him too much.
I'm not arguing that there were worse presidents than him but you can't possibly say he was a good president because other people would "1000 times worse president than he is." If he couldn't take the responsibility of the most powerful country on the planet, he shouldn't have taken it.
Besides, he keeps spending billions of dollars to keep Mexican immigrants out and continue with the war in Iraq when that country has a lot more to worry about right now. He brought the US economy from one of it's highest points in history to what's probably the lowest.
You can't possibly say he was a good president.

LTS wrote:I love how everyone hates bush. I don't, but people HATE that man.... I mean.. i havn't heard of a president that hated since... well, jimmy carter...


But he's trying his best to lead the country. It's taken a real toll on him. Just compare video/ photos of him in 99 with video/ photos of him now. he look's like he's aged 15 years.....


Because people, being the president, it's kind of a hard thing..

99.8 percent of people who think bush sucks would be 1000 times worse presidents than he is...

aaand all the other stuff you wrote...

All the people who think he is a bad leader and so on... might be way worse in his position if they were president, but not being the presindent some one has to point out that the leadership of this country sux and has to be replaced or it has to start making some major changes. The critics tend to exaggerate certain matters or just or they just flame over something beacuse they feel like it, but alot of things were very wrong and did/do infact need a change.

I heared he wasn't suprised at all or so he said in an interview after the shoe throwing. He claimed that he thought the guy was just trying to get on TV... hah you know "his 15 min of fame" sort of thing
hahaha well that made me laugh 'cause anyone with half a brain can tell it's wasn't even remotely about that

Sorry for the 3 posts in a row.

LTS wrote: The way he lead our country after 9/11...

everyone in america was blind with anger after that. no one wanted to know the truth they just wanted these "muslims" to die, without rhyme nor reason.

let's take a walk through history...
Al Qaeda was training in Afghanistan. the Taliban (who i remind you was put in as government by the States after the Soviets invaded in the 70's and subsequently left in 89) let bin laden and Al Qaeda train. bush and america said to the Taliban that if they wouldn't stop letting Bin Laden train is terrorists, they would invade. they didn't so, America invaded. then in 2003 America decided to let Canada handle Afghanistan and they would attack Iraq. a nation with NO ties to Al Qaeda and bin laden or September 11.

the reasons he gave to justify attacking iraq are laughable. WMD's that are invisible, that "the government that gassed hundreds of thousands of their own people". < that happened in the late 80's and America knew about it. they even provided Iraq with weapons of war (against Iran, just because America wasn't "friends" with Iran). Bush also stated that Iraq had an "active nuclear sector". that ended years before; when THE STATES bombed their research facility. all just for a "democratic" world, a "westernized" world, A new american century.

it's amazing how many times Bush lied to the american people, and they all believed his every word like he was Jesus preaching on the mountain top.

NoReason27 wrote:

LTS wrote: The way he lead our country after 9/11...

everyone in america was blind with anger after that. no one wanted to know the truth they just wanted these "muslims" to die, without rhyme nor reason.

let's take a walk through history...
Al Qaeda was training in Afghanistan. the Taliban (who i remind you was put in as government by the States after the Soviets invaded in the 70's and subsequently left in 89) let bin laden and Al Qaeda train. bush and america said to the Taliban that if they wouldn't stop letting Bin Laden train is terrorists, they would invade. they didn't so, America invaded. then in 2003 America decided to let Canada handle Afghanistan and they would attack Iraq. a nation with NO ties to Al Qaeda and bin laden or September 11.

the reasons he gave to justify attacking iraq are laughable. WMD's that are invisible, that "the government that gassed hundreds of thousands of their own people". < that happened in the late 80's and America knew about it. they even provided Iraq with weapons of war (against Iran, just because America wasn't "friends" with Iran). Bush also stated that Iraq had an "active nuclear sector". that ended years before; when THE STATES bombed their research facility. all just for a "democratic" world, a "westernized" world, A new american century.

it's amazing how many times Bush lied to the american people, and they all believed his every word like he was Jesus preaching on the mountain top.

he wasn't lying, he was just 'bending the truth'
Way to go luke ruin a super serious discussion with a joke.... or was it a joke?

yea i agree he doesnt lie
he just does whatever can possible make him look good

Apparently Don King thinks Bush has the reflexes of a boxer, haha.

I personally don't know what to say about him. My opinion is probably biased because I really am actually Iraqi (but I don't live there thank god xD)

all I'll say that at least he wasn't like Saddam... and that the war in Iraq was made worse by Al Qaeda too, obviously. It's not fully Bush's fault... even though he isn't a good president.

i actually feel kind of sorry for bush. i mean yes i think he was a really sucky president, but hes still human. it must be hard to live with himself knowing that most of the world thinks he was the worst us president in history you know?

xmarryxx wrote:i actually feel kind of sorry for bush. i mean yes i think he was a really sucky president, but hes still human.

actually, he's half man, half bear, half pig

hardcoresum41fan wrote:

xmarryxx wrote:i actually feel kind of sorry for bush. i mean yes i think he was a really sucky president, but hes still human.

actually, he's half man, half bear, half pig

MANBEARPIG!!

xmarryxx wrote:i actually feel kind of sorry for bush. i mean yes i think he was a really sucky president, but hes still human. it must be hard to live with himself knowing that most of the world thinks he was the worst us president in history you know?

The people who think he's the worst president don't know shit about politics... They don't know about Franklin Pierce, Jimmy Carter, Or William Henry Harrison (the guy who was president for a month)