Phili wrote:d4rkst4r wrote:
I know they care about their fans, but they care about their paycheck alot more, but I don't blame them for that. And tbh, I'm not bitching, your the one bitching about how we should spam radio stations until they play their singles, how about you stop bitching! I've already voted about 20 times for each damn poll because I'm dedicated, I don't need you to make a fucking post every 2 days tell me to.
Where's this interview? Link it, yeah that's right, I've followed every single thing Sum 41 has said in the media and they have never said that so quit making shit up unless you do provide a link to that interview with them saying those EXACT words then I'll be happy to apologize.
Don't tell me to get my paranoia in check ok buddy, my facts are straight, you should get REALISTIC. You should get off everyone's back about supporting the band, ok, I'm tired of it and I'm sure everyone fucking else is. Like holy fuck, if you payed any attention and did any fucking ass research, you would realize that Sum 41 only canceled their Air Canada concert in Toronto because they sold about only 1/4 of the place out. Yeah thats fucking right, open up yours eyes and realize that!!!1!!! I don't care what Sum 41 says, they canceled The Air Canada show because no one bought tickets and if you don't believe then check out where they played when they came back to Toronto, they played at the Kool Haus which is probably as big as my house so don't give me fucking attitude when you don't have your facts straight and come on these forums bitching about shit that you know nothing about. Quit being naive and get over it.
Don't believe your naive? Listen to yourself
Phili wrote:It is NOT up in the air that Deryck hurt his back.
Yeah, I'm totally bitching about getting Sum onto the radio. Bitching is angry and negative, I was being supportive and positive. It's impossible to bitch when you're trying to convince people to do something, my friend.
bitch
verb (used without object)
Slang. to complain; gripe:
They bitched about the service, then about the bill.
Check out the interview that they did with George Strombo lately. They said that exactly. So stop trying to make me look like a shitty-ass liar. If I agreed with a word you were saying, I'd say so.
They played Kool Haus because they were the only headliner. If they had come back with Finger Eleven, they would've booked the Air Canada Centre again. I'd like to point out that most of their shows didn't exactly sell out this tour as well. Did they cancel? No. They either put on a brave face or changed the venue.
Cancelling the tour did nothing but bad things for the album and the band. They were dropped from a good half of Canada's radio stations, Underclass Hero and its singles lost a whole lot of their attention, and they totally let a fellow Canadian band down. They've been in the business long enough to know it would. I think it's quite obvious that they would not cancel a tour that big unless they absolutely had to and they DID absolutely have to. If you can still not get off your bitter ass and admit that Deryck actually had valid reasons relating to his personal health, than I cannot help you. And don't say I'd be suspicious too if I'd been let down. My HALLOWEEN show got cancelled and they didn't even come back.
And, OK, yeah, it is up in the air that Deryck hurt his back. But it shouldn't be.
And Sum-42, either insult my opinions and express your own yourself or get out.
Bitching isn't always negative, it even says so in your definition there,
"complain". You have been complaining to everyone here about our "lack of support", that my friend, IS bitching.
As for that interview that I just watched, here's what deryck said EXACTLY
George: "Is it harder to start the second time?"
Deryck: "Yes, well not for us but for everyone else to get back into it. Try and convince everyone to get back into the album." Then they started comparing work to a dog and pony show and if you took them serious when they said that, then you need a sense of humor.
Convince everyone to get back into the album? Yeah ok, they should have convinced me to get into the first time around.
As for them playing at the Kool Haus instead of the Air Canada Center the second time around, Phili, have you ever sat down and wondered why Sum 41 was the only headliner? Because Finger Eleven realized Sum 41 was bringing them down. Personally I don't care for them at all but during the Live Nation tour, I bet Finger Eleven was praying for an opportunity to cancel the damn tour, it was brutal.
As for Canadian Radio Stations dropping their singles, I'm not sure if you don't know how touring works but just because a radio station drops your single, doesn't give you an excuse to stop touring. When a radio station plays your singles, it means their
sponsoring you so when you do go play, the radio station pays for you to play at the venue, playing at a venue isn't free and someone has to make out the check.
Your probably wondering why no radio stations are sponsoring Sum 41, well, it isn't damn fucking because we at theresnosolution.com arn't being supportive, it's because Underclass Hero didn't sell well. Now, before you hit your "reply" button and flame me for the above statement and say "....BUT UNDERCLASS HERO IS THEIR BEST SELLING RECORD!!!!!!!". Really? no it's not. Let me post a little chart I found.
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Im sorry, just because there are more copies of Underclass Hero than bibles in Japan, doesn't make Underclass Hero their best album. Look how dead they are in North America or Europe.
Don't believe me? K.
2008 Tour Dates for Europe:
Brixton Academy (February 21)
Norwich UEA (22)
Cardiff University (23)
Southampton Guildhall (24)
Manchester Academy (26)
Leeds University (27)
Nottingham Rock City (28)
Glasgow Barrowlands (March 1)
Newcastle Academy (2)
Birmingham Academy (3)
They played 10 times in Europe, 10 fucking times. That so laughable it could make your head spin. Thank God I don't live in Europe.
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So what does Sum 41 have planned for the summer? Only 3 tour dates that are sponsored by radio stations. That's pathetic. Sum 41 should say fuck you to the radio stations and get shows that arn't sponsored by radio stations. YOU DON'T NEED RADIO STATIONS TO FUND YOUR VENUES! They live in LA for God's sake, they can suck up a few tour expenses.
For me, I just think right now theie absolutely lost in the music world/industry. As for the future, Sum 41 should there game face's on, tour this summer intensely, write an album that North American's and European's like for once and release it next spring/summer.
Man, why do you make me post freaking essay's about how this album has been a failure? Even Sum 41 knows themselves it's been brutal, even though they don't come out and say it. Even the people here at theresnosolution.com know it's failure, but that doesn't mean we hate them.
btw you just got ripped.