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Re: Rise Against
Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 5:40 am
by Dylan
Actually, you may be right :/
The second song you released online, “Architects,†a lot of people have been curious about the line, “Don’t you remember when you were young / How you wanted to set the world on fire,†which seems to be quoting Against Me! Was that what Tim was aiming for, if you know?
I think Against Me! is a great band. To me, that song was a little disappointing. I think Tom wrote that song to get a reaction, and he definitely got a reaction from Tim because it inspired him enough to write “Architects.†I think it’s just two different takes. I wouldn’t want to put words in anyone’s mouth. I’m not sure exactly why Tom wrote that song, but I can cay we’re still inspired by the things that founded punk rock. There’s validity to it and we don’t want to invalidate it just because we’re older now. I think with any scene there’s going to be people in it for the wrong reasons, and maybe that was Tom’s experience. I’m not sure. I just felt like that was the response to Tom’s song. It’s definitely not a personal thing with us and Against Me!
http://absolutepunk.net/showthread.php? ... st86637912
Re: Rise Against
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 10:04 pm
by Emil
So i read somewhere that they sold out a 13 000 capacity arena, when the fuck did they become SO big? I knew Savior and Hero Of War where appealing to the mainstream, but 13 000?! Jesus...
I'd love to see them in a small club like this again...
Re: Rise Against
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 10:10 pm
by FuckT41182
well, I think that it's more of a ''building a fanbase throughout the years'' thing than ''being popular'' thing ...
I mean, Sum 41 also had 15 000 people at France, didn't they ? and UH wasn't exactly a dream album
Re: Rise Against
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 10:15 pm
by Emil
FuckT41182 wrote:well, I think that it's more of a ''building a fanbase throughout the years'' thing than ''being popular'' thing ...
I mean, Sum 41 also had 15 000 people at France, didn't they ? and UH wasn't exactly a dream album
Yeah, they sure as hell weren't an overnight success but 13 000? Even though TSATW did relatively well commercially neither of the singles were as big as Savior. What the hell happened?
Re: Rise Against
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 10:19 pm
by Dylan
they managed to put thoughtful lyrics into energetic pop songs that people like. unfortunately, not as many people listen to the lyrics and truly think about them. truth be told, more people than you think like Rise Against just because of the melody and because other people like them.
Re: Rise Against
Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 3:43 pm
by Emil
I think their lyrics has been getting gradually worse since SSOCC.
From this,
to this
Now i have nothing against songs about relationships but they did it so much better before.
Re: Rise Against
Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 6:25 pm
by Gregorovich
This is why Tim McIlrath can be considered a god amongst men.
Re: Rise Against
Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 8:00 pm
by silverdolphin
Gregorovich wrote:This is why Tim McIlrath can be considered a god amongst men.
That's so awesome & humble of him! He even donated the money.
Shows how being a "rockstar" doesn't affect some people.
Re: Rise Against
Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 10:14 pm
by hellsong41
silverdolphin wrote:Gregorovich wrote:This is why Tim McIlrath can be considered a god amongst men.
That's so awesome & humble of him! He even donated the money.
Shows how being a "rockstar" doesn't affect some people.
If there's one person people should look up to, it's Tim. He's talented, doesn't have a "I'm a rockstar, screw off" attitude, and is kind hearted enough to donate the money. I'm surprised that some people could just walk past him without even a second look though. I mean, he's Tim McIlrath!
Re: Rise Against
Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 11:16 pm
by Emil
I've been listening to Revolutions Per Minutes alot latley and i can't find one bad thing about that record. It's so raw and filled with emotions and Liek The Angel is one of the best songs i've ever heard.
Re: Rise Against
Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 11:37 pm
by Gregorovich
Emil wrote:I've been listening to Revolutions Per Minutes alot latley and i can't find one bad thing about that record. It's so raw and filled with emotions and Liek The Angel is one of the best songs i've ever heard.
Honestly I don't like their old stuff nearly as much. I don't know why, but I feel Appeal to Reason was one of my favourite albums of all time. Rise Against are one of the only bands I've ever heard of who have actually got the political music thing right.
Re: Rise Against
Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 11:47 am
by Emil
Gregorovich wrote:Emil wrote:I've been listening to Revolutions Per Minutes alot latley and i can't find one bad thing about that record. It's so raw and filled with emotions and Liek The Angel is one of the best songs i've ever heard.
Honestly I don't like their old stuff nearly as much. I don't know why, but I feel Appeal to Reason was one of my favourite albums of all time. Rise Against are one of the only bands I've ever heard of who have actually got the political music thing right.
Appeal To Reason is a great record but to me it doesn't have the same feeling as the four previous records, there are some killer songs on there like Audience Of One and Whereabouts Unknown but there also a couple of weird songs on it. I hate to admit it but Savior is also a great song even though all those people who only like the band because of that song ruins it for me.
Re: Rise Against
Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 2:34 pm
by Gregorovich
Emil wrote:Gregorovich wrote:Emil wrote:I've been listening to Revolutions Per Minutes alot latley and i can't find one bad thing about that record. It's so raw and filled with emotions and Liek The Angel is one of the best songs i've ever heard.
Honestly I don't like their old stuff nearly as much. I don't know why, but I feel Appeal to Reason was one of my favourite albums of all time. Rise Against are one of the only bands I've ever heard of who have actually got the political music thing right.
Appeal To Reason is a great record but to me it doesn't have the same feeling as the four previous records, there are some killer songs on there like Audience Of One and Whereabouts Unknown but there also a couple of weird songs on it. I hate to admit it but Savior is also a great song even though all those people who only like the band because of that song ruins it for me.
I think From Heads Unworthy pretty much sums up the overall feel of that record. It's sinister, political, and almost apocalyptic but is still an amazing song. The singles like Audience of One, Saviour & Her of War do get old quickly, but I think it's the feel and sound of the album as a whole which makes it so great.
Re: Rise Against
Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 5:09 pm
by ÜBERCUNT
has anyone seen the new music video for satellite? i just saw it...it was quite a bummer actually.
It was basically a "Baby you dont wanna know" for Rise Against. It just sucks because that song could've made a great REAL music video for that song. And "Help Is On the Way" doesnt even SHOW the band....so i could hardly consider that a music video too....
but make it stop was great :).....satellite was a bummer
Re: Rise Against
Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 11:01 am
by Emil
I'm fairly certain they're gonna release a fourth singel aswell so that may very well have a real music video.
Re: Rise Against
Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 11:18 am
by Hentaiman
It seems like bands (or labels) don't invest any real music videos anymore. I was also bummed with the video for Satellite. I hate this videos which are just a compilation of live and backstage footage or whatever.. especially with the Sums cuz SBM (the song) had an unofficial video like that.. then the BYDWK was also such a video, and now Rise Against also does that.
I think the only labels that still care to actually do music videos are the smaller ones, like Epitaph, and all those metalcore/post hardcore labels like Rise, Tragic Hero, Victory, etc. Cuz I mean, Parkway Drive got like 4 videos from their last album and the Sums or Rise Against should be considered bigger bands.
Re: Rise Against
Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 11:23 am
by Gregorovich
Live Music Videos are hard to get right, but look pretty awesome when you do. East Jesus Nowhere for example - that song did deserve a real video but the live one was fairly cool too.
Re: Rise Against
Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 4:40 pm
by Emil
Hentaiman wrote:It seems like bands (or labels) don't invest any real music videos anymore. I was also bummed with the video for Satellite. I hate this videos which are just a compilation of live and backstage footage or whatever.. especially with the Sums cuz SBM (the song) had an unofficial video like that.. then the BYDWK was also such a video, and now Rise Against also does that.
I think the only labels that still care to actually do music videos are the smaller ones, like Epitaph, and all those metalcore/post hardcore labels like Rise, Tragic Hero, Victory, etc. Cuz I mean, Parkway Drive got like 4 videos from their last album and the Sums or Rise Against should be considered bigger bands.
Rise Against has allready released two real music videos for this album, they chos themselves not to appear in the video for Help Is On The Way cause they felt it would take away from the message of the video and besides they had five videos for Appeal To Reason, Rise Against is a much bigger band than Sum 41 nowdays and their label lets them do whatever they want basically and still pays for it.
Re: Rise Against
Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 9:49 pm
by Hentaiman
They actually had 4 videos on Appeal to Reason, but Hero of War wasn't a single, so they only had 3 singles basically which isn't that much. In their previous album they had 5 singles, 4 of which got a music video, while the Sums also had only 3 singles on UH (but at least all three got real normal music videos). Compare it to AKNF era Sums which had 4 singles and 4 real videos on AKNF.
Still, Rise Against are bigger than Sums, it's obvious, but what i'm trying to say is that even they are in decline right now, and it's the smaller labels that hold most of the metalcore/deathcore bands like Victory Records and Rise Records that really invest in their bands. I mean, metalcore/hardcore bands get music videos regularly and they're never even live/a compilation of life and backstage footage videos. Look at A Day to Remember or Parkway Drive for example.
Re: Rise Against
Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 10:07 pm
by ÜBERCUNT
Gregorovich wrote:Live Music Videos are hard to get right, but look pretty awesome when you do. East Jesus Nowhere for example - that song did deserve a real video but the live one was fairly cool too.
really? cause i didnt like that one honestly.....all the same camera angles. I just really dont like live videos.....even though Over My Head was pretty good....