Sum 41 / SBM discussion

[Jables]

wow, the divorces suck, we should be like the aliens in the Spielberg's TV Show Taken, absolutely NO feelings, but a big amount of rationality instead.

But then where would we get our desire to masturbate?

[182sins]

After reading your posts both Jeremy and Heather I realize it makes sense. I mean, I never really thought about "A Dark Road Out Of Hell" as being about the divorce, well at least not totally about it. To me he was kinda talking about his whole life, but now after seeing you posts, I tend to think he's talking about his years with Avril.

[FuckT41182]

wow, the divorces suck, we should be like the aliens in the Spielberg's TV Show Taken, absolutely NO feelings, but a big amount of rationality instead.

But then where would we get our desire to masturbate?

masturbation is the most significant and meaningful sign of the whole humanity, there is a program in our brains which leads us straightly to masturbation, no need for feelings there, not even desire, masturbation is a habit

[Jables]

wow, the divorces suck, we should be like the aliens in the Spielberg's TV Show Taken, absolutely NO feelings, but a big amount of rationality instead.

But then where would we get our desire to masturbate?

masturbation is the most significant and meaningful sign of the whole humanity, there is a program in our brains which leads us straightly to masturbation, no need for feelings there, not even desire, masturbation is a habit

No, it is a way of life....

[Jeremy Kill]

A question, what is the meaning of "A Dark Road Out Of Hell"?

My personal opinion? It translates to: A Dark Road Out of A Divorce. Denial to anger and finally to acceptance... It's a little journey from 2009 to 2011 in how Deryck felt about the whole thing. That's how I like to see it anyway. Looking at the lyrics, it really makes sense.


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especially the line "I don't want to know what I think I suppose" like he knows what she's been doing and knows its going to end "if this is goodbye, then forever's just a lie" and "big enough to make you wanna try" hints he did try to save the marriage. but yeah, consciously or unconsciously its about what happened in 09 - 10 and how he dealt with everything "while looking for the answers only questions come to mind", the journey through it and when he finally leaves "as I depart its not so hard". And HM makes me think he wants to feel the way he did with Av again, but doesn't have "time for the scars to heal"

As well as the line at the end of Holy Image of Lies: "You have your scars, but I never thought that you would give me mine." When I first listened to A Dark Road Out of Hell, I had no idea what was going on and what the point of the song was. However, I think it kind of resembles the Kübler-Ross Model (aka The Five Stages of Grief) even though you can only pick out three stages from the songs at best. Holy Image of Lies (Denial Stage), Sick of Everyone (Anger Stage), Happiness Machine (Acceptance Stage).

I know in interviews Deryck and the band have said time and time again that Screaming Bloody Murder was not a "divorce album". In my opinion though, many of the songs have roots stemming from the divorce and even Deryck has started to be less adamant about the album's content and what it is or isn't supposed to be about. He just says he wrote what he felt at the time and whatever came out came out. He doesn't fully deny or confirm anything.

Take Crash for example. Clearly the song is not about supposed to be about Avril, but when Deryck sang the words "I was supposed to grow old with you, but that ain't gonna happen" in the studio do you think he was thinking about being some random dying guy on the street talking to a faceless wife/significant other? Or do you think an image of Avril slipped in his mind as he sang those words?

tl;dr - Basically, I see a lot of these songs being tied to the divorce, whether it's a single lyric or an entire song. Exceptions to this are Time for You to Go and Baby You Don't Wanna Know. I find those songs to be too generic to have any real meaning. They are just the "fun songs" on the album. Jessica Kill is another exception. The rest of the songs, I believe, have at least one lyric rooted to the divorce.

[HugoDisasters]

wow, the divorces suck, we should be like the aliens in the Spielberg's TV Show Taken, absolutely NO feelings, but a big amount of rationality instead.

But then where would we get our desire to masturbate?

Thinking of everything, don't you...

[PyroAMYac]

Where the fuck is the music vid?

Honestly? After the album release palava I'm hardly surprised at this.

I'm. Going. To . Kill. Someone... WHERE'S THE VID??!!!!

[Gregorovich]

I see ADROOH as focussing on life and times of trouble as a whole but the divorce was obviously a heavy influence in this. Same with other songs such as BIME & WAITS- influenced by Avril but not based on her. Crash is obviously not connected at all to the divorce because of its age.

[SumGeek]

Those are some good observations about A Dark Road Out Of Hell. Like Deryck said, we all can interpret the songs the way we think they are supposed to be about, even Deryck doesn't really know exactly himself. I think those are some good points though!

[Heather]

Those are some good observations about A Dark Road Out Of Hell. Like Deryck said, we all can interpret the songs the way we think they are supposed to be about, even Deryck doesn't really know exactly himself. I think those are some good points though!

yeah I really didn't even think about interpreting the songs at first listen. The only one I did that with is WAITS, to me its the most clearly based on Avril. And like Jer said, he's hasn't been very candid about the lyrics to this album and has given very generic answers to Avril questions, showing he doesn't want to talk about it, which is most likely why he says he doesn't know what they're about. But in some lyrics its pretty obvious, others I think are just about life in general.

And minus the words "girl" and "baby" in TFYTG and BYDWK, I kinda interpret that to be his message to the label barking out orders, pushing him and disliking their behavior (drinking)..haha

[Andros]

New update!

[Nic]

Beat me to it.

[Resident Skumfuk]

Ahhh! Blood In My Eyes live!! i are excite

[peacock41]

im guess reason to belive will be played i think thats what steve was askign if hes just to start or will they have all the wierd sounds at the start

blood in my eyes didnt sound great but only got like 5 seconds of it haha

[Sam 41]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20aL2g3X ... e=youtu.be

has anybody seen this yet?

[Mitchell]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20aL2g3X ... e=youtu.be

does anybody have seen this yet?

Yup, everyone has

[lisaNL]

Cool new update, can't wait to hear blood in my eyes live!

[Queso Man]

Anybody else notice how Parachute, one of Island's bands, has one of those banners on the front of the iTunes store to promote their new stuff..... while Sum 41 did not. smh Island

[Faeyaner]

Is it only playback or will there be a piano/keyboard now?
Look @ 0:20!

[samueeL]

Sounded like playback Reason to Believe but hard to say.