Sum 41 / SBM discussion

[Mitchell]

fuckfest you say? we need pictures. videos would be a bonus.

I was going to make a lame joke about porn sites..

[Hexidecimal]

I'm in the process of storyboarding a MV for BIM and scumfuck, but animated. Not sure If i'd have to fight island about hosting it online though.

[bizzyd53]

fuckfest you say? we need pictures. videos would be a bonus.

I was going to make a lame joke about porn sites..

Too easy, good thing you didn't. Gotta earn the hard ones.

[Raku]

I'm in the process of storyboarding a MV for BIM and scumfuck, but animated. Not sure If i'd have to fight island about hosting it online though.

Post it on another video site, keep away from youtube for awhile.

[ÜBERCUNT]

from what i heard, i think that this album really IS about Avril. And I honestly hope that it is....Its like just a big "fuck you" to avril!! haha "I'm over you-congratulations!!" (i havent heard bime thought yet, i just know those lyrics are in the song...)

[Pocket Monkey]

I like how everyone is talking about an indie band on a Sum 41 thread...but Sum 41 won't top them though, they are just too brilliant....and yes i have been listening to them before the awards were given

[SumGeek]

I know that most people had no clue about who arcade fire was until the Grammy's this year

I've known about them since their video for "Rebellion (Lies)" was released in 2005. It got a lot of Canadian airplay. I guess that's why. Their getting pretty well known now, yeah, but Sum 41 blows them out of the water. Sum 41 have been around longer and are internationally well known so I can see a win for The Sums. I can see it being close though.

[Pocket Monkey]

I know that most people had no clue about who arcade fire was until the Grammy's this year

I've known about them since their video for "Rebellion (Lies)" was released in 2005. It got a lot of Canadian airplay. I guess that's why. Their getting pretty well known now, yeah, but Sum 41 blows them out of the water. Sum 41 have been around longer and are internationally well known so I can see a win for The Sums. I can see it being close though.

Well you have to understand, the fact that they are more well known and that they've been around longer has nothing to do with creativity. If your talking on that term Arcade Fire certainly wins that. i love Sum 41, but they aren't the best band ever.

Random milk!

[fergal41]

Haha, you can't just say Arcade Fire are more creative than Sum 41! They're a great band, but their songwriting isn't on another level like Dylan or Young. Even then, one can't just say that they're more creative than anyone else - it's all subjective really.

I'm seeing a win for AF in this anyway, simply because it's on an MTV website and they're immensely popular at the minute.

[SumGeek]

I know that most people had no clue about who arcade fire was until the Grammy's this year

I've known about them since their video for "Rebellion (Lies)" was released in 2005. It got a lot of Canadian airplay. I guess that's why. Their getting pretty well known now, yeah, but Sum 41 blows them out of the water. Sum 41 have been around longer and are internationally well known so I can see a win for The Sums. I can see it being close though.

Well you have to understand, the fact that they are more well known and that they've been around longer has nothing to do with creativity. If your talking on that term Arcade Fire certainly wins that. i love Sum 41, but they aren't the best band ever.

Random milk!

Well, I'm not just saying this and being biased because Sum 41 are my favourite band. I just think this. And a lot of people will probably end up voting for Sum 41 for nostalgic reasons. Anyway, we should be discussing this in the thread for the MTV Winter in Valencia special.

[dbauer91]

Haha, you can't just say Arcade Fire are more creative than Sum 41! They're a great band, but their songwriting isn't on another level like Dylan or Young. Even then, one can't just say that they're more creative than anyone else - it's all subjective really.

I'm seeing a win for AF in this anyway, simply because it's on an MTV website and they're immensely popular at the minute.

kinda off-topic, but i hate it when people give absurd praise to old artists just cuz they have a rep and were important many years ago. imo there's nothing amazing about dylan or young's songwriting, people just overrate them cuz they're "classics." i mean neither of them have nearly the diversity of even the sums, let alone bands today w/ better songwriters. rant aside, holy shit 11 days.

[fergal41]

Haha, you can't just say Arcade Fire are more creative than Sum 41! They're a great band, but their songwriting isn't on another level like Dylan or Young. Even then, one can't just say that they're more creative than anyone else - it's all subjective really.

I'm seeing a win for AF in this anyway, simply because it's on an MTV website and they're immensely popular at the minute.

kinda off-topic, but i hate it when people give absurd praise to old artists just cuz they have a rep and were important many years ago. imo there's nothing amazing about dylan or young's songwriting, people just overrate them cuz they're "classics." i mean neither of them have nearly the diversity of even the sums, let alone bands today w/ better songwriters. rant aside, holy shit 11 days.

I am in no way giving absurd praise to 'old artists'. In my (and millions of others) opinions, those two men are two of the greatest living songwriters in the world today. Their back catalogues are often seen as measuring sticks for intregity and greatness.

To say that Bob Dylan or Neil Young don't have nearly the diversity of Sum 41 is actually just factually incorrect. Both artists have over forty albums each to Sum 41's five and a half. Even if each of Sum 41's albums were completely different genre's and styles, their body of work wouldn't be half as diverse as Dylan or Young's. That's just the way it is.

The funny thing is, you infer that they were only important many years ago - but the only reason both have managed to remain so vital is because their work has been so diverse down the years. I mean, Neil Young has churned out acoustic and electric solo albums, rock albums with his band, played in a jazz band, spent half a decade putting out synthesized music, has had Pearl Jam and Booker T and the MG's as his backing bands. All that is before you even to begin to disect his lyrical content and stylings. Metaphors, euphemisms, ridiculously complex language. Then some of his stuff is so direct that a four year old could get it.

Then you have Dylan, he alienated the majority of his fanbase by changing from acoustic to electric in the late sixties. His lyrical content was always poetic beyond anything that any of his contemporaries had ever produced. Then he changed things up in the seventies and started writing more direct and engaging lyrics that the ordinary listener could relate to. Next he makes albums with church choirs, throws out a Christmas album.

Off topic indeed.

[pteargriffin]

Haha, you can't just say Arcade Fire are more creative than Sum 41! They're a great band, but their songwriting isn't on another level like Dylan or Young. Even then, one can't just say that they're more creative than anyone else - it's all subjective really.

I'm seeing a win for AF in this anyway, simply because it's on an MTV website and they're immensely popular at the minute.

kinda off-topic, but i hate it when people give absurd praise to old artists just cuz they have a rep and were important many years ago. imo there's nothing amazing about dylan or young's songwriting, people just overrate them cuz they're "classics." i mean neither of them have nearly the diversity of even the sums, let alone bands today w/ better songwriters. rant aside, holy shit 11 days.

I am in no way giving absurd praise to 'old artists'. In my (and millions of others) opinions, those two men are two of the greatest living songwriters in the world today. Their back catalogues are often seen as measuring sticks for intregity and greatness.

To say that Bob Dylan or Neil Young don't have nearly the diversity of Sum 41 is actually just factually incorrect. Both artists have over forty albums each to Sum 41's five and a half. Even if each of Sum 41's albums were completely different genre's and styles, their body of work wouldn't be half as diverse as Dylan or Young's. That's just the way it is.

The funny thing is, you infer that they were only important many years ago - but the only reason both have managed to remain so vital is because their work has been so diverse down the years. I mean, Neil Young has churned out acoustic and electric solo albums, rock albums with his band, played in a jazz band, spent half a decade putting out synthesized music, has had Pearl Jam and Booker T and the MG's as his backing bands. All that is before you even to begin to disect his lyrical content and stylings. Metaphors, euphemisms, ridiculously complex language. Then some of his stuff is so direct that a four year old could get it.

Then you have Dylan, he alienated the majority of his fanbase by changing from acoustic to electric in the late sixties. His lyrical content was always poetic beyond anything that any of his contemporaries had ever produced. Then he changed things up in the seventies and started writing more direct and engaging lyrics that the ordinary listener could relate to. Next he makes albums with church choirs, throws out a Christmas album.

Off topic indeed.

glad someone pointed out the ridiculousness of that kids comment haha

[lisaNL]

I just voted ten times on the poll

[Dylan]

i just realized it doesn't count your vote if you vote multiple times. it says 'thank you, we've already counted your vote". bollocks.

[Tyler.]

i just realized it doesn't count your vote if you vote multiple times. it says 'thank you, we've already counted your vote". bollocks.

It doesn't do it all the time though. I've voted then waited ages and it lets me vote again saying 'thank you' or whatever.

Also, really surprised the album hasn't leaked.

[FuckT41182]

David Bowie,Jim Morrison,Ian Curtis,Dylan,Lennon,Cobain - I don't care about their life,I listen to their music and their creativity is unbelievable , lyrics wrote metaphorically , music awesome and we don't talk about their charisma yet,three of them was killed by their own personality ...

[samueeL]

You've officially raped this thread.

[Bobbyjames]

if you want to argue about creativity and originality of music, go start a new thread in the music section.

[Hentaiman]

David Bowie,Jim Morrison,Ian Curtis,Dylan,Lennon,Cobain - I don't care about their life,I listen to their music and their creativity is unbelievable , lyrics wrote metaphorically , music awesome and we don't talk about their charisma yet,three of them was killed by their own personality ...

Ian Curtis is amazing indeed! And so underrated from all of those you mentioned here.

Anyway, the thread is officially raped and I bet it'll keep that way unless the album will leak already! It's the only March album that hasn't leaked yet!!